Self-driving Uber car kills pedestrian in Tempe, AZ

Freudian slip or typo?

 

I watched the video several times, and what it looks like is that the wide street was not fully visible to the camera. Was the camera defective, were the headlights too weak, was street lighting poor? Putting together a composite of the whole scene using overhead views as well as other views and angles of this accident, it appears that the very wide street was crossed by a person pushing a bicycle. I have walked a bicycle across a street before, and there's no way that you can rush across a street the way it's implied by some people. I think that the bicycle pusher would have been seen by a human driver. The "guardian human" in this event, was obviously distracted (by monitoring the system?!). The automated devices of the car failed to react to the obstruction to traffic. Even if the autonomous car failed to recognize the bicycle and pedestrian as such, the system still should have stopped the car in time.
Full autonomy is a very BAD deal at this time. We should not rush to embrace this currently dangerous, insufficiently tested, and vulnerable technology. A much more careful, deliberate, and GRADUAL approach to this technology is mandatory, if we ever adopt it at all.
Don't even start with ALL the legal challenges this will bring, particularly in light of our current Do-Nothing, Laissez Faire Federal government. Are the rights of that poor "bicycle lady" going to be arbitrated away??!! Arrrgh!!!

And another thing, who is doing the accident analysis? Is it Uber, is it NHTSA, is it the police department, is it the manufacturer of the autonomous car and/or autonomous system? Who has the experience, training, and qualifications to do this evaluation?! Who is unbiased and can perform a balanced, fair evaluation?! Fox News?!! Good luck with that one!!

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Late to the party I know, but this thread took a lot of reading!

And better once cooked.

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Any object, even one unidentified.

Did it detect anything at all?

Crappy headlights should mean you drive slower to compensate for the limited viewing distance. Same as before.!

 

We don't know at this time. My guess is that the lidar saw her, but the software was having trouble deciding what she was, and got caught in a loop.
The human wouldn't know this with seeing a display, which was most liking what we she her looking to in the video.
Without some type of display of what the system is doing, she still may have hit that woman since she might have assumed the car saw her too.

I have heard Uber's system is requiring more instances of driver intervention than other systems.

The car was going 38 to 40 mph. There are conflicting reports of the speed limit. I've 35 and 45 mph stated.

 

gov needs to immediately require two humans in the car, after stopping all a/v's until this is sorted.

 

The Federal Government needs to take "voluntary" out of the mix and regulate this whole experiment by law.

 

agreed, the a/v developers must be seriously lining pol's pockets.

 

I think it best to leave "draining the swamp" to Fred's dungeon.

 

meh, the only difference is the 'likes'. and this is a political hot potato.

 

They are quite tough raw: you couldn't do a decent kangaroo tartare. But grilled on a very hot barbecue or griddle pan, burnt on the outside and bleeding in the middle, it's spectacularly good.

 

Is it?

In the rest of the world it's a technical and legislative issue. Is this one of those things that Americans make a left-right issue when no-one else does?

 

Roo sous vide

 

I reckon it would go a bit chewy if you did that.

 

actually, i don't know if it is partisan. what i do know is that some states are tripping over themselves to allow it. there's nothing technical or legislative that i have seen yet.
admittedly, i haven't gone looking for details and rely on others to do that.

 

reckon@179

Sous vide newbie

 

hate to spend any of their 750 billion.

 

Other systems are going hundreds of miles between needing drivers to take over. It seems they have better systems. We oversight in many things because of the few bad apples like Uber.