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Self-driving Uber car kills pedestrian in Tempe, AZ

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    Ahha. Thanks for the clarification.

    In New South Wales, our legislators have only recently legalised the ISOFIX child seat (not, of course, that they were stalling because the Premier's husband owned a company that imported non-ISOFIX child seats), so the idea of autonomous cars is really some way off.
     
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    @Trollbait , perhaps, but you can't wait for the outcome to decide if oversight is needed. these are public roads, and should be regulated thusly. the whole thing should come under the arm of the dot, and pay to play.
    but i'm a federal guy when it comes to roads and vehicles, states rights don't work well when so many are traveling beyond state lines.
     
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    but aren't you in ff with drone deliveries and such?
     
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    No, not at all.
     
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    huh, must be faux news.:)
     
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    I suspect so. There's been talk about it being useful in the Outback, but you'd struggle with range on most commercial drones for that.

    People here are barely aware of what a hybrid is.
     
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    When Dad was in medical school, he shot a snapping turtle and put it in a pressure cooker to remove the flesh from the bones. I remember it because of the odor. One of his medical school friends came over and seeing the 'stew', grabbed a plate and fork to dig out the bits. Dad joined him and soon Boyd, his friend, asked, "What is this?"

    When Dad told him, projectile . . .

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I've had turtle at a banquet, and I'm with Boyd here. It's not something I'd normally eat because of the risk that it would be an endangered type of turtle. But even if they were farmed or something.... it really was absolutely disgusting.
     
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    Roo sous verre! (Vide = empty, verre = glass) Is that what you meant? It is funny!
    How about Roo sous pneu? (pneu = tire)
    For those non francophones, the little quip was Kangaroo under "empty"; I suggested under glass or under tire. Har, har!

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    If you cook something "sous vide", you place it in a jar (traditionally) or in a vacuum-sealed plastic pouch (if you're being all modern) and drop the jar/pouch into warm water.
     
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    AbsoDamnlutely! That what the FEDERAL government is about, besides providing an army, and other services; STANDARDIZATION of laws, infrastructure, commerce, etc. Uniform standards have to be developed to protect consumers faced with this revolutionary change to our infrastructure. This is not a toy or a game, or a simple engine modification, suspension tweak, etc. it's a critical and potentially dangerous major change to transportation. I'm speaking of full autonomy, not enhancements or driver aids like blind spot monitoring. Testing must be thoroughly performed by highly skilled, qualified third parties, and ONLY on closed courses, not on public streets. The public needs to be able to vote on whether they ever want this stuff on the street; it's their lives that will be at risk.


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    Mr. Bisco, I had to refer to the Urban Dictionary to figure out what "ff" means; the best answers were freefall, Firefox, Final Fantasy, a foot fetish I can't relay on this Proper Forum, Fine Feline, Fallacious Female, Femme Fatale, Felonious Fiend, Fiduciary Filibuster, Favorite Friend, Fantastic Forum, etc. Sir, which is it?

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    Sounds positively disgusting; sorry for my ignorance. Please leave me to my nicely charred hamburgers!

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    sous vide@194 was described imprecisely. T near 60 oC is used. exposure time varies among foods. Collagen (the tough or chewy in meat) decomposes.

    Finally you may have a soft yet unattractive meat result. Hit it with a flame (I would not say torch because some imagine that to mean flashlight) and result of Maillard reactions is ooh la la.

    Modern science informs cookery to good result. I think I got this. If we finish considering auto-auto 'accidents', we might move on to food.
     
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    Yes - I just wanted to pass on the basics of it not being what @HPrimeAdvanced seemed to think it was.

    It's not something I've ever tried doing: it seems like a massive faff. Also, I've tried a few sous vide things in restaurants and have been underwhelmed.
     
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    I think you have to go to one of those really fancy-schmancy places where you have to make a reservation a year in advance, like Alinea in Chicago, for the best examples of that sort of thing.

    I've never been there, I've only read about it.

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    It can, of course, be done massively wrong. For the moment I'd suggest against generalizations.

    There's more to this heaven and earth, etc etc
     
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    Settle down there kids. You can do it yourselves, very nicely. It's just science :)
     
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    All that said, a good bit of molecular gastronomy is probably faff.

    To make an amazing meal, fair enough. Many paths. Much is theatre in support, not tucker itself

    To charge $500 for it seems wrong. Leave that for the mega-yacht folks.
     
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    That's weird. I'm working late tonight, but just stopped to have dinner, and I was watching Star Trek Enterprise: I watched the first half of an episode while I ate my non-sous-vide microwaved CTM, and I'll watch the second half as a reward once I've finished this very dull and very long report.

    The very quote you mentioned there came up in the Star Trek episode, not ten minutes ago.

    .....

    Similarly, last Wednesday, I had a dream that we bought a 1980s Lancia Thema 8.32. It's a very rare car: I doubt there are more than a couple of 8.32s left in Australia, and I'd be surprised if there are more than three or four original 80s Themas of any type. (There is a Thema of sorts being sold in Europe now, but it's just a rebadged Chrysler 300c.)

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    ...and then on Thursday I went for a walk, and I saw an original 80s Thema 2.0ie. Weird. It had been such a vivid dream, and to see one the next day was bizarre. My wife reckons I must have caught a glimpse of it on Wednesday somewhere, but I'm sure I would have noticed it more than just subconsciously if I'd seen it.

    So, between the Themas and the Shakespeare, I've been having some odd coincidences. Perhaps there's a glitch in the Matrix.

    All the more reason not to trust our self-driving overlords.
     
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