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Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by ClemsonSteve, May 31, 2018.

  1. ClemsonSteve

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    I know this might be basic, but does the VIN indicate different production dates. For example, would these VINs be produced in the following order, oldest production date to newest:
    H3053026
    H3064184
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    So H3064932 would be produced after the other two listed—it would be the newest produced of the three, correct?
     
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    The product month and year is usually on the driver's door plate with the VIN? Or is this just other cars you're researching; you just have the VIN?
     
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    Of all the 2017s on the lot, just curious if they gave me an older one or newer.
     
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    I think this answers the question—and the production sequence above is correct:
    • The last 6 digits (positions 12 through 17) are the production sequence numbers. This is the number each car receives on the assembly line. In the case of our Cadillac ATS, it was the 125,409th car to roll off the assembly line in Lansing, Michigan.
     
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    Well it's normally in sequence but given that there are two plants producing the Prius, I'd think one plant gets a set of numbers and another gets a different set. So they'll be roughly at the same time but it's possible an earlier number is produced later because it's at a different plant.
     
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    how many in your color and package did they have?
     
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    They had 6 on the lot exactly like mine.
     
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    wow. i wouldn't think the dates would be too far apart, and thinking to sell you the oldest one is giving them far too much credit.:p
     
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    I was hoping they unwittingly sold me the newest one, which they did.
     
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    that's more like it.:cool:
     
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    Actually the number or letter in the 11th position indicates the specific plant. In this case, the 11th character is after the H which is 3 on all of them—so they were all made at the same plant. BTW H means 2017 model year.
     
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    They told me that Toyota sends them extras to sell from other dealerships. So I’m sure they had a mixture of production dates—some probably from earlier 2017. My car was manufactured in Sept 2017–could have been much earlier with one of the other cars.
     
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    When did you buy it?
     
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    Yeah that's getting on a bit. No big deal though. A neglected 12 volt battery would be the main thing to look out for, I think.

    Our 2010 really "languished on the lot", 15 months, albeit at the back of an enclosed shed. About 15 kms, dusty as heck, but no problems other than a dead 12 volt, dealership replaced without argument.
     
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    I just know that the beginning letter is where the car was manufactured like mine it starts with a j and was made in Japan... I hope;)
     
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    Exactly! No danger there LOL!
     
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    I’m not sure that Toyota frame numbers, for a particular model, are always monotonically increasing with time. I haven’t made a serious investigation, but I’ve seen some out-of-sequence ranges in recall notices and service bulletins. Remember that Tsutsumi Plant (PDF) has two production lines but only one plant code (3); for the liftback Prius for the U.S. market, I believe Line 1 begin at 30xxxxx and Line 2 began at 35xxxxx.

    Since the seventeen-digit VIN itself encodes only the model year (H = 2018), the only sure ways to know the production date are to check the month and year on the certification label, as @Mendel Leisk kindly mentions, or to search Toyota’s database by VIN to find the month, day, and year. This can be done on the Vehicle Inquiry page, available by subscription to techinfo.toyota.com, which also shows the engine serial number.

    The rest of the information on the Vehicle Inquiry page (features, exterior and interior colors, factory- and port-installed options) is similar to that found on the public Toyota Vehicle Specification page, which shows the in-service date, after the car has been sold, but not the production date.

    For vehicles sold in the United States, NHTSA receives (under 49 CFR Part 565) and posts VIN decoding information in their Manufacturer’s Information Database. This contains, for example, explanations of the VIN digits for the Prius (PDF, revised August 2017) and Prius Prime (PDF, revised September 2017).

    If you already know the make, model, and year, the rest of the VIN doesn’t tell you all that much. Indeed, Toyota identifies cars built for the Japanese market by model code (ZVW52 for the Prius Prime) and seven-digit frame number, equivalent to the last seven positions of a VIN used in other markets.
     
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