WOW! Look Who's #7 - all auto sales in July

QUOTE="el Crucero, post: 2764388, member: 137712"

Attached are the results for car sedan sales in July, 2018. The Tesla model 3 ranked #7 in sales for last month with 14,250 sales/deliveries. The top 6 sales were captured by Japanese brands Toyota, Honda, and Nissan. All of these brands top 6 brands should sales decrease from minor to significant with the exception of Sentra which showed a minor increase. Even more encouraging Tesla model 3 was in the top 20 in sales when compared to all vehicle sales including SUVs and pickups. Tesla model 3 numbers will even get better in August as ramp up continues with expected sales/deliveries to hit close to 20K units.

"The Model 3 cracked the top ten list for best-selling passenger cars in the month of July, according to Goodcarbadcar, which analyzes sales data for the automobile industry.

The report said Tesla sold 14,250 Model 3 Sedans in July, with it selling 38,617 year-to-date. That ranks seventh among all passenger car sold in the U.S. last month. The data includes cars delivered, not deposits or reservations for cars. The Model 3 outsold the Ford Mustang, Toyota Prius, and the Hyundai Elantra.

In fact, the car outsold the BMW 3-Series (3,185) and Mercedes-Benz C-Class ( 3,841) combined in the same period.

Tesla noted on its earnings report last week that the Model 3 is already the best-selling premium mid-sized sedan in the U.S., a segment that includes the BMW 3-series, Audi A4, Mercedes C-class, Lexus IS, and Jaguar XE.

The Toyota Corolla was the best selling car in July at 26,754 cars. Meanwhile, the Toyota Camry and Honda Civic were tied for second place with 26,311 vehicles sold. The Honda Accord was third with 24,927 cars sold in July.

Those cars cost significantly less than the $50,000 Model 3 that currently available, so it will be interesting to see where the Model 3 moves in the rankings once the promised $35,000 version hits the market next year."
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July 2018 YTD U.S. Passenger Car Sales Rankings – Best-Selling Cars In America | GCBC

 

It's not for me for the next two or three years, because I am about 500,000th on the waiting list.
But no hurry, in the meantime happy with my trusty PII.


"... #7 - all auto sales in July"
I think you mean U.S. passenger car sedan sales, excluding pickups and SUVs.
But nevertheless, impressive for the first year of a completely new model. Not to mention

 

Excellent data, I took a slightly different tact:

	Model	Month	Month LY	grow - fade	status
1	Tesla Model 3	14250	0	100%	grow
2	Kia Stinger	1506	0	100%	grow
3	Infiniti Q60	755	0	100%	grow
4	Honda Insight	1972	1	100%	grow
5	Honda Clarity FCV	1615	116	93%	grow
6	Acura RLX	148	64	70%	grow
7	Lexus LS	712	402	64%	grow
8	Toyota Mirai	137	82	63%	grow
9	Porsche 718	531	331	62%	grow
10	Mitsubishi Mirage	2374	1560	60%	grow
11	Kia Optima	10919	7933	58%
12	Volkswagen Beetle Family	1785	1359	57%
13	BMW i8	72	55	57%
14	Nissan GT-R	39	30	57%
15	Audi A4	3433	2652	56%
16	Kia Rio	1844	1587	54%
17	Porsche Panamera	585	510	53%
18	Volvo 60-Series	1351	1184	53%
19	Hyundai Veloster	943	831	53%
20	Ford Fiesta	3928	3582	52%
21	Dodge Charger	5743	5426	51%
22	Audi A5	2381	2255	51%
23	Jaguar XF	244	232	51%
24	BMW 6-Series	328	314	51%
25	Audi R8	76	73	51%
26	Hyundai Elantra	13753	13287	51%
27	Nissan Sentra	19362	18724	51%
28	Hyundai Ioniq	1198	1252	49%
29	Ford Mustang	5934	6206	49%
30	Toyota Corolla Family	26754	28333	49%
31	Infiniti Q50	2397	2596	48%
32	Chrysler 300	2813	3090	48%
33	Dodge Challenger	4837	5333	48%
34	Toyota Avalon	2573	2859	47%
35	BMW 4-Series	2579	2866	47%
36	Hyundai Sonata	9548	10648	47%
37	Ford Taurus Family	2570	2867	47%
38	Nissan Leaf	1149	1283	47%
39	Porsche 911	524	587	47%
40	Hyundai Accent	1873	2115	47%
41	Subaru Impreza Family	9399	10710	47%
42	Mini Cooper Family	2572	2936	47%
43	Ford GT	7	8	47%
44	Audi A3	2011	2300	47%
45	Fiat 124 Spider	392	450	47%
46	BMW 7-Series	704	822	46%
47	Mazda MX-5 Miata	844	997	46%
48	Lexus IS	2068	2443	46%
49	BMW 5-Series	3104	3713	46%
50	Volvo 90-Series	899	1078	45%
51	Acura TLX	2046	2495	45%
52	Alfa Romeo 4C	18	22	45%
53	Honda Accord	24927	30903	45%
54	Kia K900	28	35	44%
55	Subaru BRZ	297	372	44%
56	Honda Fit	3818	4804	44%
57	Mercedes-Benz C-Class	3841	4899	44%
58	BMW 3-Series	3185	4084	44%
59	Ford Fusion	10822	13886	44%
60	Volkswagen Passat	4003	5143	44%
61	Toyota Camry	26311	33827	44%
62	Alfa Romeo Giulia	858	1104	44%
63	Toyota Prius Family	7265	9384	44%
64	BMW i3	464	601	44%
65	Infiniti Q70	279	375	43%
66	Lexus GS	470	652	42%
67	Nissan Altima	16015	22314	42%
68	Honda Civic	26311	36683	42%
69	Mazda 3	5266	7407	42%
70	Nissan Versa	5472	7899	41%
71	Subaru Legacy	2605	3785	41%
72	Lexus ES	4551	6641	41%
73	Toyota Yaris Family	2468	3694	40%
74	Acura ILX	874	1322	40%
75	Lincoln MKZ	1580	2399	40%
76	Mercedes-Benz CLA-Class	1424	2181	40%
77	Mercedes-Benz SLC-Class	127	199	39%
78	Mazda 6	2213	3482	39%
79	Kia Soul	8203	12961	39%
80	Volkswagen Jetta	6938	11053	39%
81	Kia Forte	7546	12022	39%
82	Fiat 500L	107	171	38%
83	Mercedes-Benz SL-Class	95	154	38%
84	Lincoln Continental	573	958	37%
85	Audi TT	106	181	37%
86	Mercedes-Benz E / CLS-Class	2252	3876	37%
87	Mercedes-Benz AMG GT	104	179	37%
88	Volkswagen Golf Family	3170	5583	36%
89	Jaguar XJ	119	210	36%
90	Smart ForTwo	103	182	36%
91	Jaguar F-Type	129	232	36%
92	Ford Focus	8993	16505	35%
93	Nissan 370Z	224	441	34%
94	Lexus RC	259	522	33%
95	BMW 2-Series	634	1331	32%
96	Nissan Maxima	2487	5330	32%
97	Tesla Model S	1100	2400	31%
98	Toyota 86 / FR-S	300	655	31%
99	Mercedes-Benz S-Class	630	1470	30%
100	Lexus LC	166	402	29%	fade
101	Audi A7	107	266	29%	fade
102	Genesis G90	117	305	28%	fade
103	Kia Cadenza	200	523	28%	fade
104	Genesis G80	498	1339	27%	fade
105	Fiat 500	363	1026	26%	fade
106	Jaguar XE	253	744	25%	fade
107	Volkswagen CC	32	95	25%	fade
108	Ford C-Max	472	1839	20%	fade
109	Audi A6	157	1218	11%	fade
110	Audi A8	34	270	11%	fade
111	Acura NSX	3	30	9%	fade
112	Hyundai Azera	14	233	6%	fade
113	Dodge Dart	23	822	3%	fade
114	Chrysler 200	36	1899	2%	fade
115	Mitsubishi Lancer	3	1025	0%	fade

To identify how cars are selling, I used: month / (month + month LC)

Bob Wilson

 

Surprised to see the Nissan Rogue is not listed - I'm seeing them all over the place...

 

Mazel tov!

15k is a great monthly number.
See you in a year.

 

Those are debut numbers.
Impressive enough, but where it goes from here is really the key.

Given the cost, and exclusivity that still exists with Tesla, and still rather niche consumer base, I would expect standing to fade, in comparison to mainstream consumer choices.

It is still somewhat Tesla's "badge" that it's a company that doesn't build to the greatest mass consumer demand.

 

Camry had debut numbers once, and we all know where that went.

That's what was said about the Ford F-150 once upon a time

You might be right, but as more of them are on the road they will become more mainstream and that will lead to mass consumer demand. According to the latest surveys, Tesla has over 91% "would buy again" rating.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20161222/RETAIL03/161229935/tesla-dominates-owner-satisfaction-survey-consumer-reports-says

 

Realize I'm not knocking Tesla here. I'm a big fan of what Tesla and Elon Musk have created and have been able to accomplish. I'm just pointing out realities concerning what Tesla currently is, and the danger of throwing a parade based on "debut" numbers.

And I can't really join you in any comparison between a Tesla and The Ford F-150. IMO those are about as divergent a product and tangible history as possible.
The F-150 being a truck, being built for demand after WW II, by Ford one of the pioneers, maybe THE pioneer of the mass produced vehicle.
Maybe the ONLY arguable similarity, is that as a truck, you could call it a "niche" vehicle, for a specific audience. But besides that? The F-150 is one of the most popular, long lasting product lines. I don't think there ever was a "Tesla" like start up era of F-150 existence.

 

I get the cheerleader thing, but nobody ever-ever-ever said that they "expect [F-150] standing to fade, in comparison to mainstream consumer choices." or anything like it.
The F-150 supplanted...noting, since purpose-built pickup trucks have been around in one form or fashion for over 100 years, and their future (electric or otherwise) is fairly secure going forward.

Ford's F-series began after World War II, when pickup trucks had already been around for over a generation, and there's a non-zero percent chance that some form of consumer owned truck-like thing will probably be around for at least a generation after the last Ford F-series rolls off of the assembly line.
During the early 1920's, when farm trucks also doubled as personal transport....pickups were a 'thing.'
During the dust-bowl inspired migration westward, pickups were a 'thing'.
After WW2, when comsumer products and housing demands caused shortages that had to be met with dual-purpose vehicles, pickups were a 'thing'.
During the 80's when car prices spiked and performance and reliability tanked....the cheapest vehicles on the planet had beds and tailgates, and pickups were a 'thing'.

Even today, the skateboard architecture of BEVs will lend themselves beautifully to cars that are trucks and like the Oakies in Steinbeck's novel....if the 'experts' who make cars don't also make trucks, some will probably get made....anyway.

Tesla (and it's cheerleaders) need to regard the data presented by the OP in context.
Keyword:
Sedan.

They need to (and doubtless WILL) expand to the baby-ute and pickup markets too....
That's probably why there are red boxes in the Civic, Camary, Corolla, and other rows, or are we to believe that people are leaving the $25,000 sedan market so that they can buy a $50,000..........sedan.
Methinks not entirely.

 

I agree, one month statistic does not set a trend, but this statistic is going to grow even larger over the next couple of years. I expect that Model Y sales will eat into Model 3 sales once it is introduced next year.

Yes, I think the F-150 was a niche vehicle when introduced but look at it today! I know a lot of people who use them as their primary family vehicle.

 

unfortunately

 

When talking about Ford, keep in mind that the sales numbers quoted are usually for the "F-Series", which includes the F-150, F-250, etc. There's also regular cab, crew cab, super cab, different bed lengths, single or dual wheel, and most of these variations can be had as a basic work truck or loaded with luxury and technology features. The range of prices goes from around $30K to around $100K.

It's really not a single model, more like a sub brand.

 

As a SUV, it wouldn't be on that list.

 

We usually see a 3-4 month bump on a new model until production matches demand. But one exception was the Gen-2 that was a glass of water in Death Valley. The demand was an order of magnitude higher than production. Dealers were ADDING to the MSRP. That is Tesla’s Model 3 Market. Evidence is the EBay market prices for Model 3.

Bob Wilson

 

Poor reading comprehension on my part...

 

agreed on first half, but beware the ebay prices. they aren't actually selling in volume on the secondary market, just a few suckers here and there.