Model 3 Profitability

i don't believe twitter. just another short twit

 

Yeah but they've historically had trouble moving gross profit to the bottom line, as it seems that SG&A grows with revenue.

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It is a complete waste of time. It's also my guilty pleasure alternative to reality tv.

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For the batteries' charge to reach the point where the car couldn't be taken to a charger, they would have had to sit, unplugged, for six months in summer heat. Much longer in cooler temperatures.
Elevating Self-discharge - Battery University

At some of their busiest Supercharger locations, Tesla has had to use generators to handle holiday traffic in the past. From that photo though, I am guessing it is at some event. Multiple demonstrations and test drives of the performance models could need recharging at faster rates during the event.

 

I was thinking of parasitic loads such as running the A/C to control the battery temperature. From the little bit I've read, such features are supposed to turn off at ~30% charge which should still leave months before self discharge causes problems. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine a firmware bug that causes additional parasitic load and runs through the last 30% in a week or two.

On the other hand, it could be an event of some sort. It also wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine such a photo being intentionally misrepresented by unscrupulous short investors.

My question is how to tell the difference? It does seem that what starts out as FUD on Twitter is sometimes (but not always) followed by admissions of "delivery hell" and dropping numbers in the Bloomberg production tracker.

And let me take this opportunity to say there is so much I don't know and discussions such as this help me to sharpen my critical thinking.

 

There are some discussions about vampiric losses in Teslas around here. It is mostly keeping the sensors looking for an approaching fob on, and keeping the 12 volt topped off. A Model S will lose some range sitting two weeks in an airport parking lot, but still have plenty left to get home. The settings for these can be adjusted by the owner to reduce the losses.

If the cars were sitting long enough that such loses would be an issue, they would just need to plug them into an outlet to more than counter the losses. No need for renting a large generator.

With all the negative reports running on Tesla for years, I have reached the "cry wolf" level of any such now being wrong or simply lies.

 

on topic with low temp/low charge - here's a traction pack fun fact that most here in the major US / electric car metropolitan will never experience. Some of the northern european countries have serious cold Temps - so they've U-tubed / experimented with very low temp charging. It goes like this - for example;
Unplugged - & battery cold soaked ... below ~0°f (-18°c) & below a 20% charge - you can't supercharge, or even slow charge above a few kW's. BUT - 'wasting' that last 20kW's of charge, by flooring it, up & down the road a couple miles, & braking hard (regen) - will warm your pack to the point that it can now charge sufficiently faster - so you can be back on the road quicker than had you simply allowed the Chargers' electricity to warm the pack, despite driving 10 or 12 miles of hard accelerating & decelerating ... even though your critically low pack will initially charge slow due to being low!
Good to know if you are an imbecile, there's a quicker way to get back on the road.

i think of it as chicken little .... "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!"
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probably just a mirage...