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  1. The Electric Me

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    Just to temporarily hijack the thread a little bit...
    I do think things have changed as far as reliability perceptions and car brands.

    When I was young..a kid in the 70's...if you wanted a smaller Japanese vehicle Toyota and Honda were clearly on top, with little competition.
    And Toyota has remained on top.

    But in North America, I think Honda has slipped.
    At least where I live...Pacific Northwest, you have Toyota, then I think Subaru is the really popular brand.

    You can then mix in, Hyundai, Mazda, KIA, Honda...with Ford, GM and every other automaker's offerings.

    I think credit actual uniform improvement among brands. They are all pretty good now. Everyone manufacturers to pretty comparable standards.
    I wouldn't of touched a Hyundai when they first were being sold in the US. Now? I think they are a viable good choice. I worked with a co-worker who bought an early Hyundai. He worked Graveyard Shift and it was a nightly speech about the new part that broke off in his hand during his drive to work.
    When I was a kid? Again the gas crisis mid 70's, if you wanted something 4 cylinder, maybe with a Hatch? You pretty much had Toyota, Honda, and Volkswagen.
    If you ventured away from those 3, you could talk about how your Pinto was just as good, but you'd turn on the nightly news to see one exploding in slow motion.
    Or you could impress your neighbors with the beautiful lines of a 1970's Gremlin. A vehicle named after a mythical creature credited with sabotage and equipment failure in WW II planes. Who thought that was a good name for a vehicle?

    I grew up, believing especially if it was a small vehicle? You pretty much wanted a Toyota, Honda or Volkswagen.
    Times have surely changed.
     
  2. PriusCamper

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    Actually it's not... It's an actual actionable legal term you can use and in the case of most products sold will earn you a full refund. And maybe a refund is not an option in this instance, but the point is that if you don't like what you buy and it's not from a private seller buyer's remorse means you're going to do something about it and it's not wasted energy if you follow thru on what you're saying.
     
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    Thanks for sharing... But when it comes to buying & ranking brand new vehicles, it's highly inaccurate, especially when Tesla and many other car makers aren't even represented. Also vehicles per # of problems stats is particularly glaring because those have more to do with car dealerships scamming their customers and the car makers with unnecessary over-priced repairs. As in little things like a problem with a door lock needing a little grease will turn into "replace doorlock assembly" con-job.
     
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    Phht...
    I think laws vary from State to State...but I feel pretty safe in saying in this incidence, the buyers remorse is just emotional buyers remorse, and since the vehicle isn't demonstrating any problems? Good Luck in launching a law suit that would result in a refund.

    I don't think that is what the OP is looking for here, I don't think it's applicable to this situation.

    Also...for years I've heard about the fabled 3 day return period, or the Buyers Remorse clause....but to be honest? I've never read about anyone actually executing a return or getting a refund based on simply changing their mind.

    Some dealerships voluntarily offer a return period. But I've personally never read of a vehicle purchased in good faith, with no fraudulent aspect to the sale that was returned for a refund...unless it was simply out of the goodness of the dealerships heart...and good luck with that today.
    Some may let you trade back in...at a loss......but most aren't going to be swayed by the "term" Buyers Remorse.

    When I was young I bought a new vehicle I regretted buying. It was brand new, perfectly fine, but I felt the purchase was a mistake. This was in Oregon.
    And I did some investigation at that time about return periods, and buyers remorse...and was pretty much told...Sorry Charley...you bought the vehicle in good faith...it was sold to you in good faith....deal with it.

    Albeit this was a long time ago. But I don't have too much faith in stories of being able to return vehicles once you've signed on the dotted line and driven off the lot.

    But in any case....I don't think launching a lawsuit in an effort to reverse the deal, is even what the OP is thinking about here. And I certainly wouldn't advance it as a possible course of action.

    It's a used, 8 year old, $6,500 dollar Prius.
    I'm guessing somewhere on the contract it said both "As Is" and "All Sales Are Final".
     
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    That pic on post #5. This is the first Prius I've seen without the MFD. Is that model two's only? I'm not familiar with Gen 1, but I thought all Gen 2, 3 and 4's had them. I'm obviously wrong since I've seen it on the internet!
     
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    It was an early Gen3 thing for the trim 2. Doesn’t have a backup camera either.
     
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    Thanks. I wasn't expect the back-up view to be showing on that sliver of a screen. ;)
     
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    I just realized the OP has a Prius with a BMW license plate frame.

    I was fine with the whole deal...but that can not stand.

    That's splinting into the Prius DNA with something horribly alien to it's own existence. The results could be tragic.
    Get new Licence Plate frames ASAP!
     
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    Lol....I plan to.

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    Lol, you might be overthinking this one... When you buy something "as-is" your points are valid, but when you're buying a brand new product, most return policies are very generous because it's not a legal issue, it's a reputation / standing behind the product you sell issue. And yes, I already said that it's not likely to apply in this case, so no need to re-say what I already said.
     
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    OK but like I said, I bought a brand new vehicle as a young kid...and guess what?
    Most dealerships don't have generous return policies...because they basically don't want you returning the vehicle once you've purchased it.
    PLUS you weren't defining "Buyers Remorse" as anything to do with a personally held dealership return policy, you were advancing it as being a "actionable legal term that you can use and in the case of most products sold will earn you a full refund".

    Sorry but no.
    I think in most cases...you buy a vehicle, sign the contract and drive off the lot?
    You can come back with a 4 piece string quartet, playing Bach's "Buyers Remorse" in the key of "D" and the dealership is just going to laugh.
    I don't believe claiming buyers remorse is going to allow you to reverse deals.
     
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    This reminds me of The Office when Michael Scott thought by saying “I declared bankruptcy” that he had declared bankruptcy :cool:.

    Oscar set him straight shortly thereafter(y).
     
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    It's so good I don't even have to argue with you... I can just quote you arguing with yourself. Too funny...
     
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    No conflict.
    I said "MOST dealerships don't offer a generous return policy".

    I have seen "some" advertising, where "some" dealerships do.

    But I stand by my statements. Both of them.

    MOST dealerships do NOT offer a "generous" return policy.

    There are the few exceptions, dealerships that will advertise a "trial period" or a return policy. But really? Usually it's an advertising angle, and those dealerships are pretty rare.

    But my point remains the same.
    You suggested "Buyers Remorse" was some type of "legal" magical term that could reverse deals already made.
    And that is simply not the case.
    There is a difference between "The Law" or consumer laws and a super minority of dealerships that "may" advertise a voluntary offered "trial" period on purchased vehicles.

    To suggest that returning a vehicle that you have purchased...signed the contract, drove off the lot is the industry "norm" I think is false. Once you've bought the vehicle, MOST dealerships aren't going to reverse the deal.
     
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    What’s the matter with BMWs? I just got done replacing the window regulators on mine this afternoon.
     
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    With Tesla sales going so well, BMW will go broke in less than 5 years... So think of the plate frame as a memorial to BMW driving yuppies of the 1990's. There's not many of them left.
     
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    Tesla sales aren’t going that well. BMW isn’t going anywhere. The people that buy Tesla’s are very different than people that buy BMWs. The lady I bought my Prius from bought a Tesla. That’s the more likely upgrade.
     
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    Haha... Do you live under a rock? Tesla is in the Top 3 of top model sales in US and Luxury car makers indicate they already have noticed a decline in sales now that Tesla is producing a thousand vehicles a day. Name any other luxury car maker that makes a thousand cars a day and still has tens of thousands on a waiting list? 1/2 million Tesla's on the road will likely happen in less than a year... But I get it, you like working on your broke down BMW. No worries, enjoy yourself while it lasts.
     
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    Name any other luxury car that gets a tax break other that a Tesla? That’s the real reason for the sales. And my BMW isn’t broke down by any means. You need to check your attitude bro.
     
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    OK, how about the BMW i8?
     
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