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HELP, check engine lt.& check hibrid system. after changing plugs

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by #1lightman, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. #1lightman

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    Changed my spark plugs last night, when i start it up it runs good and smooth for about 15-20 seconds then starts to act like it's running on 2 or 3 cylinders. rattling and chugging, plus the two lights on.
     
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    Try ngk plugs.denso gave me knocking results
     
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    did you torque them properly?
     
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    They're the specified Denso plug? And where did you buy; wasn't there some counterfeits?

    IIRC, Toyota changed the spec plug's "heat" range, from 20 to 16. But I think either would do.
     
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    Torque is 15 ft/lb with dry threads. Maybe 12 with anti-seize.
     
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    OK, what I did was change out the factory plugs ( at 102k miles ) with the new-fangled twin tip Denso plug and my car hates them !!!
    Codes P0302-P3190-P0303, missing on acceleration, and my mileage is off. Looks like it is time to get a set of whatever Toyota is putting in my car this year.
     
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    The Owner's Manual says Denso SC20HR11, but if memory serves, Toyota fairly recently revised that to (hotter) SC16HR11. Dealership parts department can likely confirm that.
     
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    Begs the question how was it running before touching the plugs? Also, I'd re-check all components touched during your plug change. Maybe something didn't get put back correctly...
     
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    Please keep us posted. I'm a big fan of twin tip denso plugs and run them in 2 other cars I own with no problems whatsoever. I considered getting them for prius if available. What is the specific part # you got? I need to do more search. Why would they work for most cars and not prius? Did you test them?

    once i had a weird problem with denso iridium plugs in my boat, after countless problems, i switched to regular old fashioned copper/nickel plugs and no problems since. turned out when denso sharp (but single) tip iridium plugs got fouled, they were useless and no cleaning could fix them.
     
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    The part # is IXEH20TT / 4711 My car was running fine before, but at 100+ k miles I thought it was time and maybe help the mileage. This was not a job I wanted to repeat over and over!
     
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    there are some other threads on people changing prius plugs using OEM ones and getting way lower MPG. not sure why prius is so picky about such a routine thing.
     
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    I bought the same plugs from RockAuto. Although, I haven't used them yet because my car hasn't hit 100,000 miles yet. There are two reviews on Amazon from Prius owners (2010 and 2014), so I thought these plugs should be fine.



    There are also fake Denso spark plugs out there, so be careful.
     
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    The spark plug replacement interval is 120K miles (192K kms) or 144 months (12 years), the same as in the US.

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    Alright, I had some time tonight so I went in and checked the torque on the plugs. with an inch/lb wrench and the plus only had about a quarter of the torque called for. I never would have cranked them down that tight without the wrench! ( aluminum head ) I will drive it for another week and see how things behave.
     
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    Well I found the source of my missing, P0303 code and crummy mileage. the top plug was my #3, notice anything missing?
     
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    Yeah focus, lol.

    Seriously, even out of focus, that doesn't look good.

    Still: why would this happen to a brand new plug?

    How many miles, and have you ever cleaned the Exhaust Gas Recirc circuit, and/or intake manifold?
     
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    About 104K miles now, I have never tuched anything else on the car ( except block the grill in the winter)
    My phone does not do macro pictures.
     
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    Ok thanks, maybe others will comment, all I can suggest is to check condition of the pipe between EGR valve and intake manifold, see how much carbon build up.

    Shooting closeups like the above, your chances are better if the background is something like a blank/smooth wall, it'll force the focus on the plugs, as long as they're not closer than the close focus limit.
     
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    is the broken plug the same that was loose?
    it's hard to imagine they came like that from factory or broke after short use. hopefully the broken tip didn't score the cylinder too hard. watch oil consumption now.
     
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    i bet those were were fake densos. i ordered a set of denso TT from ebay and got 2 different styles with slightly different description on the insulators. I got suspicious and compared to the original ones I purchased at brick and mortar store for my son's car (different size). there were subtle differences on box and print looked sharper on the originals. The metal finish was slightly different on the plugs with fakes being shiny chrome plated, densos semi mat with fine machining groves.