Featured Batteries vs Fuel Cell

Batteries!

 

Many good take-away's. Some quick favorites

On the Up side for hydrogen;
* if there are TONS of surplus energy (ok, it's uncommon most areas) it's a great storage medium
* if weight is an issue, storage is lighter

On Hydrogen down side;
* ROI for the very best of the best hydrogen energy is, "energy-in" (used to distill) = net negative "energy-out" "left to use".
* (not in OP's video?) Hydrogen embrittlement eventually destroys metal (as in fuel lines, fittings)
Hydrogen embrittlement - Wikipedia (with pictures)
* trillion $ infrastructure

On the Up side for batteries;
* Leverages existing grid infrastructure for much of the battery refueling
* Less likely to require non-renewable for electricity generation
* Higher probability of "volume" - means cost/tech gets less expensive

On the Battery Down side;
* Weight
* Loss (example; home charge to 300 miles full, & over night, the range will decrease ~3 miles/1%)

Video talks "2020" - Japan's Olympics - Hydrogen Economy.
Ok, Japan believes their "can-do" optimism will make a hydrogen economy happen, by making hydrogen practical. If History teaches us anything, it teaches that a can-do outlook + tons of time, money & resources will NOT necessarily bring about one's objective.





This opinion, was brought to you by a child of a WWII Pacific-theater (95yr old, still kicking) Marine Vet. But still - we wish them well with the attempt at success.
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Exactly, I thought of this exact scene with that exact word many, many times...

 

This makes me wonder... If hydrogen is such a great solution why has there been zero investment in using it for generating electricity? Seems a hydrogen electricity generating facility is way easier to do than a hydrogen car, yet no one has ever built one. Not even the military... Why is that?

 

Looks like a 29? Cool
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Another up side to batteries is that you don't have to constantly deal with people (incorrectly) comparing your car to the Hindenburg.

 

260 mile tesla model 3 mid range rwd premium is 3686 lbs
310 mile tesla model 3 long range awd premium is 4072 lbs
312 mile toyota mirai fwd is 4078 lbs
366 mile honda clarity fwd is 4134 lbs

It does not appear that battery weight is any longer a problem given the model 3. My guess is in 5 years, which is long before there are hydrogen stations to fuel cars accross the country, a clarity sized (for passengers and cargo, not outer dementions) could be built as either a fwd or rwd 400 mile range bev and come in under 4000 lbs. The awd model 3 already is lighter than the fwd mirai.