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  1. iplug

    iplug Senior Member

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    Sorry for being the uncalled for recipient of abuse, @bisco. Just had to block my first fellow PriusChatter. He followed me into unwelcomed private conversation:eek:
     
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    He hasn’t made it to blocked status yet;).

    I only have a “Dutch Uncle” and his 2 user ids on there now:cool:.

    But soon he may ascend to the same level(y).
     
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  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Source: Is the Stock Market Open on Christmas Eve?

    Both the stock market and the bond market are open on Monday, Dec. 24, 2018, which is Christmas Eve. However, the stock market closes early at 1 p.m. ET, and the bond market closes early at 2 p.m. ET.​

    Bob Wilson
     
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    you could do worse. The Yukon City will get you 14MPG, whereas the Thirsty Toyota Sequoia only gets 13.
    Good thing Toyota builds the Mirai for Cali, to skew their CAFE ratings up a notch .... whereas GM has to rely on the Chevy Bolt in order to not suffer extra fees.
    .
     
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  5. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

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    nothing but coal in their collective stockings
     
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    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    If you did I would have to "unread" all 73000 of your posts.

    Mike
     
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    Raytheeagle Senior Member

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    I’d have to figure out how to “unlike” all his posts too:p.
     
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    bisco cookie crumbler

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    better keep you know who away from me then :cool:
     
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    That is correct, the grid that I contribute more to than I use.

    As I said up-thread,
    Correct, but when you use less electricity than what you produce, it is pointless.
     
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    I agree with some of what you have said. but what I really want to know is how the Sun Power power wall is working out for you. As far as Solar City is concerned, you can hook up their battery backup units in series to create a power wall. They are available today.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    [​IMG]
    • Diversity works
    • Interesting sell-off the end of the trading day (will it be panic Wednesday?)
      • 800,000 may be looking to fill-in for missing pay
    Bob Wilson
     
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    Well played with KL.
     
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    a famous man once said, 'the only thing wrong with the economy is the federal reserve'.
     
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    Once upon today.

    Famous quotes remain aplenty from famous man.
     
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    of course, i'm loving my 3% cd's. feds doing an excellent job, imo.

    i came of age in the era of 18% rates, so i don't see what all the fuss is about
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Back to the Monday, December 23, TSLA performance. I too follow the news to see if I missed something: Tesla shares fall 7.6% following price cuts in China and Elon Musk’s promise to reimburse missed tax credits – TechCrunch

    . . . The stock fell by 7.6 percent after Tesla cut the Model 3’s price in China and CEO Elon Musk promised to reimburse U.S. customers if they miss a tax credit deadline due to Model 3 shipment delays.

    Reuters reported this weekend that the Model 3’s prices on Tesla’s China website had been reduced by up to 7.6 percent, with the starting price now at 499,000 RMB (about $72,000). This is the third time since November that Tesla has lowered the price of its vehicles in China.

    The first was in November, when it slashed the price of Model X and Model S vehicles by 12 to 26 percent, stating that it was “absorbing a significant part of the tariff to help make cars more affordable for customers in China.” Then this month, Tesla cut Model X and Model S prices again, citing China’s decision to temporarily suspend a new 25 percent tariff on American-produced vehicles and auto parts as the two countries reached a ceasefire in the trade war.    ​

    Seeing only a percentage without quantities always tickles my 'spider sense.' How many cars are sold in China? How many Q4 Tesla owners will miss getting the $7,500 Federal tax credit but only a $3,250 credit? At most, Tesla would be on the hook for $3,250 per car.

    In Q3, Tesla reported an operating margin: "We also delivered on our internal cost efficiency targets, leading to GAAP Model 3 gross margin of more than 20%, which exceeded our guidance." Also, "Due to the ingenuity and incredible hard work of our team combined with an innovative vehicle design and manufacturing strategy, we have achieved total auto gross margin of ~25%." This means Tesla has a lot of pad to pay for good customer relations which is especially important in China.

    China has a growing, domestic EV industry but they are still 2-3 generations behind Tesla. Buying market share, the prestige, buys market share in the future. Pay a little today with small sales leads to sustained market share in future years.

    Remember I'm a calm investor and the Q4 production numbers should come out within 7-10 days. Then the Q4 report in about 45 days. If others want to 'run around and set their hair on fire', my only regret is not having ready cash to buy more stock.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    'wall street welcomes larry ellison and kathleen wilson-thompson to the tesla board with a buy signal.'
     
    #357 bisco, Dec 28, 2018
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    Since I became interested in buying a Tesla, I've been following several Tesla focused forums. Particularly focused on ordering and delivery. And while I see an occasional seamless process report, I see far to many that speak of a disaster. I think in order to cram all the deliveries they can into 4Q18, they are building a whole bunch of expenses that will come home in 2019.

    The only "store" in NC is a single one in Raleigh, They just rented a parking lot (from a body shop in a not great part of town to be in at night) from which to do deliveries and store cars. Rush you out the door. 5 minute once over. Don't dare to ask questions. Extra supercharging months if you don't test drive. Paint problems and gap irregularities on most of the deliveries. Service appointments weeks out. Parts weeks away. Exchange policies for cars that can't drive and must be towed and go right into service waits that are ridiculous.

    I may buy one but not until things settle down. The $3750 extra tax rebate isn't enough to make me want to to get into a situation such as locals are describing.

    Long term, re the stock, I worry about the disruption coming from the "great new battery technology" and what that does to their investment in current battery technology manufacturing. Maybe that is out a few years but I buy stocks for the long term.
     
    #358 mikefocke, Dec 28, 2018
  19. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Please inform us as to this "great new battery technology" that you speak of.
     
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    must be hard to sleep at night. i had a stuffed animal like that when i was a kid, his name was eeyore
     
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