Toyota admits being hurt by Tesla, gives tepid response

That is probably true for some people. But even more people want a reliable car with good service. They don't want an odd ball car that is hard to service, a long ways to service center, small online community to provide help, and the manufacturer be more likely to close down, etc.

Mike

 

For a moment I thought you were referring to a Prius .

Seriously tho, the Prius Chat community has been the best resource for a car I've no prior experience with. Can't say this about any other chat group I have tried, more like a bulletin board where I have seen a question go 2 years without a reply.

 

It's not hard to grasp with recent 'out-of-warranty' owners finding themselves ignored by the same place they bought their car from.

 

Anti-car or can't afford a car? Working 2 jobs or one 16 hours a day and so live proximate to the job or work from home? Go by any used car lot and it is packed (mostly with sedans) with a glut of serviceable cars. And a few are lucky enough or disciplined enough so they can afford to buy new and even up in the price range.

Heck, one of the reasons I bought a Prius was it was different. If it weren't so darn reliable and useful I'd buy something else probably wildly different. But I am curbing my enthusiasms for now.

I'm glad I'm not making billion dollar bets on what the economy will be like or what the public will want 5 years from now.

 

Perhaps but I know a guy at work who owns 3 Dodge Neons, when asked he says that is the only car he will ever own because it’s efficient and reliable.

Another guy at work only owns Jaguars and he says they are reliable with good engineering.

I once upon a time had a TDI Jetta, it was hands down a huge money pit, biggest piece of crap I’ve ever owned and no local dealer either. Everything on the car broke and yet you have people singing their praises about how they go forever while leaving out the sheer quantity of “wear” parts you have to throw on every 80,000 miles

So, Most people agree with what you state but you have to take a step back and ask what really are their priorities?

 

thank you for the heads up. what is the purpose of the policy?

 

probably be awhile before they're sold in any quantity here, if ever

 

I believe it is to give people, that had not test driven the vehicle yet, confidence in signing on the dotted line.
I would further suggest, that not test driving before you are ready to buy is a very good idea.
Not for the same reasons though. I would make that suggestion because I’ve seen an awful lot of people test drive a Tesla without the intention of buying, and then buying one.

 

other than Limited Interstate charging infrastructure, there are youtube videos - owners on other contents that sing its praises.
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I'm happy BEV works with your logistics and lifestyle...but it does not work for everyone. The Leaf I did drive...junk. I did look into obtaining the FIT EV and the RAV4 EV as an "additional" vehicle as well, but they were ONLY made as compliance vehicles and restricted by location...not allowed in TX...and I took those all the way up both ladders.

You are correct about smug though...so my friendly is don't be part of "that" problem.

 

hunday is too calicentric, we likely won't see them

 

would that be because they aren't able to test drive? i'm still confused. maybe thinking of years of mainstream buying

 

Looks like the good old boy manufacturers had to come up with a plan to force you to buy one of their cars ..... no it isn't a great ev of their own .... God no ..... much easier;
New Bills Introduced to End Bans on Tesla's Direct-Sales Model - Tesla Motors Club
LOL - if you can't beat them at their own game, make them illegal.
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agreed, but why not offer it to people who take test drives? sorry for my lack of understanding.

 

Test drives are not always easy to get. In some states, Tesla isn’t even allowed to give test drives.