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Jerry's Evolving Thoughts on "new-to-me" Prime Premium

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by jerrymildred, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. Raytheeagle

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    Yeah, I've seen that used part for sale on eBay. I am still wondering how hard or possible to remove the acrylic part without destroying it? If possible, I was thinking of taking it off and painting just the acrylic part and put it back on the grill. The black plastic part of the grill subassembly on my PRIME is OK. I just have a crack on the acrylic part.
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    I'd say make sure all parts are warm before attempting anything;).

    But can they be separated: yes

    Is your car with a crack in the glass jaw an issue: maybe

    If our Prime has a crack in the glass jaw (or when it does), will I poke the bear: Nope

    The Prime is a point A to Point B car to me. And it does that fantastically well:).

    I'll save the fate tempting for another task(y).
     
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    Yeah, unless it is super easy and cheap to fix it I am not going to touch it. Replacing the entire grill parts (cost ~$350?) is way too much for my liking. The other only reason I might want to fix the crack on the front would be if I trade-in or sell the car early. Cosmetic on a car plays a big role in the selling price more than internal mechanical issues.
     
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    Yeah, that's my main concern in getting a new one. The job was actually entertaining to me, but I would be UPSET if I spent several hundred dollars and then something broke the new one a week later. :mad:

    It looked like it would come off and I considered trying it, but I didn't because the black part was right against the crack. I couldn't see a way to reinforce the repair.
     
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    If your old Sienna is any gauge though, when the time comes to offload it, a crack in the acrylic will be a smaller concern;).

    We offloaded our 2010 when it had 200k miles on it. I can see a similar thing happening about 8 years for now with this Prime:).

    That is of course if Rivian gets their act together and the R1T is a reality:whistle:.

    Otherwise I'll keep piling on the miles and see how long the Prime lasts(y).
     
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    Yeah, if I keep the PRIME for as long as I did Sienna (12 years), small crack and dent and rust are a non-issue. As I said, it matters if I trade-in or sell the car early. I was severely penalized on very minor scratches and other cosmetic issues on my last trade-in on my previous Gen3 to PRIME jump. My Gen3 was only 2.5 years old with 36K on it but the dealer knocked off $2K from the BB.:(
     
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    Mine's still young, too, and that was a factor in my deciding to mess with it. (I just turned over 40k miles yesterday.) But I do plan to keep this one for a long time unless a typical Florida driver intervenes.
     
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    Update on the driver's door "armrest" project. Not sure if I've mentioned it in this thread, but if Idid, it was a long time ago. So here's a short history.

    The armrest on the door is insanely low. It's nowhere near my elbow even when I'm not trying to hold the wheel with that hand. I made a felt covered platform and tried various ways to secure it without defacing the car. None seemed to work that well and the felt cloth was a little scratchy. So here's what I hope is the "permanent" arrangement.

    Inside is a stack of those shiny foam pads like what they pack computers in. Not spongy, but firm. On top of that is one of the very firm wrist rests like some people put in front of their keyboards, cut to length. And then, for padding, I used a couple Mr. Clean Magic Eraser cleaning sponges cut to fit. They were just the right width, but it took 1-1/2 of them to cover from end to end.

    Then, with some coaching from my amazingly skilled wife (made her own WEDDING DRESS!!) I stitched some black cloth over it and secured it to the arm rest with some black elastic. It's not a work of art, but I think it should work long term. It's nice and stable, and feels way better than the felt cloth.

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    ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY!!!!
    It's hard to believe that I bought this car a year ago today. It's still the best car I've ever owned. Still comfortable and rattle free -- except for when my wife doesn't get the seatbelt buckle quite right when she gets out. Then, next time I drive, I have to reach over and untwist it. And there was an occasional rattle in the dash that I was able to track down and stifle.

    The steering wheel and upholstery still look new. On the outside, it has some added character thanks to hitting a road runner at about 65 mph and cracking the grill. Those are pretty solid birds!! And there are a few minor dings and chips from rocks, flying pieces of exploding tire, and other airborne FOD. There's a bit of a rub mark on the back bumper that sprouted one day while my wife and I were in the grocery store. Not very prominent, but it's there. Otherwise, the car still looks great for one that's been on the road for 4 years and spent about 2-1/2 winters in the north with all the salt and ice chunks.

    So, now for the one year stats.
    • Miles: 19,138 as of when I got gas just before arriving home yesterday.
    • Total cost of gas and electricity: $619.77
    • Total fuel cost per mile including a 6,013 mile road trip: 3.24 cents/mile
    • Cost per mile of my last tank of gas including electricity (2,757 miles): 2.04 cents/mile (I spent almost twice as much on electricity as on gas. LOL! At $2.179/gallon, this was the cheapest gas since Feb. of last year.
    Fuels savings compared to a typical 28 mpg car over the first year are $1,124.32.

    Other operating costs, not including unnecessary do-dads: $911.59
    This includes:
    • new tires with alignment
    • 2 oil changes
    • replace ATF-WS
    • another 4-wheel alignment
    • brake fluid flush and replace
    The tires were obviously the big ouch. So, with those out of the way along with brakes and ATF, I should be set for a while.
     
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    Congrats! For the record, that is 366 days. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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    The car had 22,937 miles on it when I got it almost exactly 16 months ago. I missed the 33,333 mile mark. But I caught the 44,444 yesterday on the way home from work.

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    The average mpg is after the reset I did when I got the car. The longest road trip was the one last year that was over 6,000 miles. It brought the average mpg down to about 77 iirc, so this is how much it's increased since then. I've had several other 100+ mile trips, but nothing like that multi-week trip out west.

    Here's my mileage since the last fill-up on March 6. If I guesstimate at one gallon per mark (I think it's really slightly less than that.), then, at 6-1/3 gallons, it comes to about 377 mpg since March 6.

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    Main expenses so far are tires, two alignments, brake fluid flush and replace, replace ATF (diy), two oil changes (diy). Next oil change is probably December unless we actually take the trip to Ohio we're planning for October. I am SO itching to get this out on a long drive again.

    It is still a problem-free wonder of transportation.
     
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    You Da'Man on the DIY work!!(y)

    Too bad you have to change the engine oil at the 10k mark, regardless of the actual engine miles.
    (if only there was a technology that tracked engine usage....)
     
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    "if only there was a technology that tracked engine usage...."

    Man is not ready for that.
     
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    Except on aircraft, generators, and other stuff. :LOL:
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    We got those from the aliens.
     
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    And Honda has had it in cars since 2006.
     
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    You mean maintenance minder? Yeah ultimately that impressed me. It tells you everything that needs doing, and seems to be using various parameters to count down to service interval. Would be interesting to know what it's using exactly.
     
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    I have a 2006 Honda Odyssey and 2015 CRV that both never seem to need oil changes according to the indicators. However, I received a note from Toyota to schedule my free oil change on my 2020 Prime - even though it has only 2500 mostly EV miles on it, and for which I’ve only purchased six gallons of gas so far. I’ll probably do it since it is free and I’m retired, but it just seems wasteful - my time, theirs, dumping perfectly good oil...
     
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