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Confused about which trim level I have

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Grahf, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. AzusaPrius

    AzusaPrius Senior Member

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    Here is mine. 20200609_103409.jpeg

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    My VIN has a zero in 10th position.
    Maybe this table is only for US ?

    Here, the VIN decodification in another presentation.

    And last attach my VIN, with 0 (zero) in 10th position that does not exist...
     

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  3. Mendel Leisk

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    There's "D" in 10'th place (of @Vman455's VIN), and according to the chart that means 2013 model year??

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    Then why does his decoder chart call it a 2013?
    The 2010 Prius cannot be used to support your claim for the normal model year calendar, because it was introduced very early, off-cycle. My 2010 was built in March or April 2009, and I was driving it by mid-June. Numerous others had theirs a month earlier.

    And then the 2010 Prius had an extra long production cycle, new units were still arriving at least through December 2010, possibly even into January 2011, before any MY2011 units started arriving. (My memory doesn't remember just when, we'd need to dig through the PriusChat archives to pin down actual dates.)

    You will need to use a different example to illustrate the normal production calendar. The 2010 Prius was highly abnormal. I was there when it happened ...
     
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  5. AzusaPrius

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    I owned and operated a car audio shop and on all cars when we needed to verify the year anything June and up was the following year when getting kits and harnesses.

    So if my prius came into the shop and I saw on the door 6/2009 I would not get parts for a 2009 but for a 2010

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    As others have indicated, I think you misunderstood my post: when I contacted the dealer in late January 2014 they told me they had this new 2013 on the lot, and the VIN corroborates that it is a 2013 MY (tenth digit "D" = 2013) despite the build date of September 2013.

    For things like audio, this doesn't matter much. But--the 2014 Prius has an extra gusset plate in the front fender to improve small-overlap crash test performance which the 2013 does not have. So, there are differences, and these were only implemented well after June of that year.

    Anyway, this thread is really off-track now.
     
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    Can anybody explain this?
    Why is zero on 10th position, and specialists affirm that is impossible?
     
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    Maybe it's different in Romania. Or you miss count?
    You'll have to check with a dealer or vehicle registration there and ask they how it works.

     
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    I did not miss count, you can verify yourself in the picture with my VIN.
    I don't think Toyota invented rules different in Romania.
     
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    Which, had you been working on Vman455's car, would have resulted in you buying the wrong parts.
     
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    As with most things, there is a lot of wrong info floating around out there. Just look at this thread.
    (and I will not be surprised if something I say here turns out to be not always true - and will be happy to learn something new)

    BTW, this whole debate about month of production vs. model year started with my 100% true story about my MY2001 BMW built in 6/2001. A fact that does not even matter, and is 100% true. Just a story I threw in there. Anyway ...

    The screenshot in post #23, surely found all over the interwebs and considered the absolute truth ... is wrong. The thing it says about O vs. 0 is only (mostly) true for the 10th digit. Truth is:
    - the letter O does not appear anywhere in VINs
    - the numeral 0 does not appear in digit 10, at least in US cars since the standard format began. At least in 1980, when an A would have been standard, there were some cases that a 0 was used, and the world did not end.
    - the numeral 0 DOES definitely appear in digits other than the 10th (year) digit. I have 3 cars with at least one zero in the VIN. So that is the error in post #23's graphic - and I'm sure that once it is out in the wild of the intertubes, it becomes as factual as that color coded table of 12V battery voltages. It is also wrong about U and Z not being allowed in the VIN; truth is that those letters are not allowed in the 10th digit, but may appear elsewhere in the VIN. Why? I'll guess they do that so at least when the digit cycles around through the alphabet it ends up where 2001 = 1, etc. 26+9 = 35, so they need to exclude 5 letters = I O Q + U Z

    I believe that there are world standards and US standards. As an example, at least on my Porsches, digits 4-5-6-9 are country specific. So when the body is built in Germany, it may have placeholder digits (=Z) in those 4 places, since at that stage of production they may not know what country the car will end up in. When imported to USA, those digits are replaced with meaningful numbers, but certain places on the body may still have the Z's. Other countries may not use those digits at all, and they remain Z's. I had this issue just last week getting a smog check here in CA. The door jamb VIN / bar code has a Z in digit 9 (check digit) and it took some explaining to the smog tech to let him know that an error would result if he just scanned the bar code there, and that he needed to read it off the windshield / dashboard VIN.

    GabrielD, thanks for posting that photo of your VIN. I agree, digit 10 is a zero and I have no explanation at all for that. It could be another exception to the "rule." I'd believe that before believing it is a mistake. And as my example above shows, they DO have different standards in different countries that overlay the world standards. BTW, I notice your digit 5 is different from mine too. I have an N there, which I believe to mean I have the 1.8L (2ZR-FXE) Atkinson engine. Do you have a different engine?
     
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    Yes, it's a 2ZR, as you can see in this pic...
    According to this VIN decoder my car was built on 01.06.2014 and the model(ZVW40L-AWXEBW) is correctly reported.
     

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    The U.S. EPA and NHTSA regulations cited in post #17 apply only in the United States, but Canada and Mexico have similar requirements: see “Vehicle Identification Number” in Schedule IV, Part II, of the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations (C.R.C., c. 1038), and NOM-001-SSP-2008 (and draft PROY-NOM-001-SEGOB2-2018), respectively.

    In Europe, Regulation (EC) No 19/2011 requires a seventeen-character VIN, but neither a check digit nor an indication of the model year is mandatory. The model year code is optional in the ISO 3779 standard. Australian Design Rule 61/02 also follows ISO 3779.

    In Japan, seventeen-character VINs aren’t used. Toyota vehicles built for domestic sale are identified by model code (e.g., ZVW30) and frame number, equivalent (for recent models) to the last seven digits of a VIN.
     
  14. Vman455

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    Was about to post this; you're exactly right. We ain't under a One World Government, folks.
     
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    I'm just amazed that two people know these things.
     
  16. AzusaPrius

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    Not yet anyway...

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