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  1. orenji

    orenji Senior Member

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    I have no agenda - what’s yours?
     
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    Wonder (and repeat false information) no more as electric vehicles by the laws of physics must get their energy inputs from electricity coming from outside the vehicle for which your Mirai and every other fuel cell vehicle does not.
    Another untruth.
    Unfortunately at the moment to clean up the false information you purposefully spread - its harmful to the honest discussion of green transportation tech.
     
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    The Mirai has an innovative grille design that directs oxygen to the fuel cells where it combines with hydrogen to create a chemical reaction that manufactures electric power. Wow imagine that it creates its own electricity from outside sources. But your right it’s not an electric vehicle. Neither is a hybrid. According to you only electric fields of energy can be plug into a car to make a car electric. Interesting concept
     
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    Not relevant to this supercharging thread. Still, sorry the laws of physics disappoint you.
     
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    Shockingly disappointed
     
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    That is I-90 & I-94, exactly the high-traffic rat-race route I very much want to avoid. It completes misses the desired route:

    Still sparse, many down in the 7 to 16 kW range. Need the NEMA 14-50 adapter too, which on a Model 3 adds only 30 miles per hour of charge. Might want to bring the NEMA 14-30 also. Daily distance potential remains quite crimped due to lack of fast daytime recharges.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Sorry, I tend to be destination oriented. It may make sense to to use this as a backbone route with diversions to sightseeing areas as 'triangles.' In our case, the Tesla backup is a BMW i3-REx which easily handles 'off grid' drives. For example, I used it to see the eclipse in Tennessee.

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    BMW i3 only travels 153 miles per charge with a fresh battery - how far can one go on off grid drives?
     
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    Rex has an ICE .... some owners have increased the gas tank size in order to make less stops.

    does nothing to make it a renewably fueled car
    Mostly by non-renewable's because it's the least expensive way to create the very expensive hydrogen
    finally seems to be progress with that realization!
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    He has a i3 REx.
     
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    So 230 miles in the real world.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Pre-COVID, I benchmarked the cost to drive between Huntsville AL and Nashville TN. EV using Electrify America and EVgo was 4x more expensive than a tank of premium gas that the range extender uses. Understand my "green" credentials are the dollars that stay in my wallet.

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    For us, all of these sorts of trips are 'journey' adventures, picking up numerous sights and activities along the way. For that autumn cross country drive a few years back, for spouse's high school reunion, we took hiking boots and gravel bikes. We didn't reach the aspirational turnaround point of Mt. Katahdin, but did get a bit into Maine before turning around. The 'journey' pattern continued half way back, not switching to 'destination home' mode until we entered South Dakota. 44 days total journey built around a 2 day event, but taking in a very large sampling of Americana.

    If not for the pandemic, we would have done it again this autumn. There are plenty of things we missed last time.

    While the route you mapped can be a backbone for a very nice journey, it will be very different, without much practical overlap to one backboned on the route I mapped. The separations are often greater than the round trip range of your Model 3, at some points even reaching the one way range.

    The charging network is definitely improving, and is already sufficient for a good portion of the population. But is not yet where we need it to be, so we are still looking to a PHEV.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Your gold, your requirements, your choice. Strange as it may seem, there is a credible choice for a hydrogen fool-cell. But that only exists from San Diego to San Francisco up to Donner Pass for a leased fool-cell car. The silly one doesn’t understand but others have their own gold ... not acknowledged by the irresponsible troll.

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    Hey Bob - lets refrain from name calling. You may not like my choice in EV vehicles and I am not a fan of Tesla - but I respectfully don’t make derogatory remarks to you personally.
     
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    Not that I haven't done the same thing on several occasions but there is an earlier thread on this topic already.
    ;)
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