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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. sam spade 2

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    I don't think any "information" is available about that.......yet.
    Until the immediate crisis is mostly under control, then the scientists can catch their breath and start looking for people who might have contracted the same or similar virus for a second time.
     
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    most of what i've read says it's variable, so they can't really tell you, take good care.
     
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    I've seen varying reports concerning the duration of immunity.
     
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    could have, should have, would have, fingers crossed
     
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    Oh Bisco. They found an inverse correlation in a sampled population of 80 people. The article and this media description were both worded appropriately.

    One underlying implication is that anti-vaxxers put themselves or children at higher risk of a unrelated infections. That would be pretty huge, but not appropriate to claim from N=80.
     
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    Somehow, I'm OK with 'anti-vaxxers' taking that path. Evolution requires mortality pre-reproduction.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    You have been consistently clear on that matter. However medical facilities and wetware and limited in supply.
     
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    Yes but many things in life are a 'crap shoot.' Sure, the infected can spread more but those of us who practice good hygiene can improve our odds. Throw the dice and let everyone live or die by the results.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    This possibility was previously mentioned in this thread in early July, and it is good to see detailed followup starting to come through:
    SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19) | Page 116 | PriusChat

    I had a travel related MMR booster (just one, not the better two) a bit under two decades ago, but have no clue how that might translate to current likely antibody levels. And wonder how much supply might be available for adults who would want this to cover for the absence of anything else available now. If this remains promising, it seems that there would be a run on this vaccine.
     
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    from the mBio article

    "Mumps, measles, and rubella IgG titers were measured by Quest Diagnostics using Liaison analyzers with chemiluminescence immunoassay (CLIA) technology for the qualitative determination of IgG antibodies in human serum specimens. The method for qualitative determination of each specific IgG corresponding to each virus was an indirect CLIA."

    If one really wanted to know their IgG levels, I $uppose it could be determined.
     
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    Following is dismal so consider not scrolling down












    US weekly new cases exceed 1 million and weekly new deaths exceed 10 thousand. Both are on convincing upslopes. Much has been made of stringent actions keeping total deaths below 500 thousand (about double the current). They may be attainable by serious, concerted efforts.

    Approval of vaccines and therapeutics is moving fast. They will have greatest early effects on medical staff and first responders. Rapidly scaling up such supply lines is pretty novel, and it is now being done with external stresses in place. Some of those, I fear, will stumble.

    The general public will make their own decisions about exposure over next few months, and those will mostly set the course. Really bad decisions could open the door for second 500 thousand, perfectly avoidable deaths.

    If new hospital facilities are being built now, I'd like to know about it. They will be needed.

    Remember the things y'all did a few months back that worked well enough? The heck of it is, with so many more infected lungs walking about, it is time to up your game.
     
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    as in Sweeden?
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    I follow John's Hopkins.

    My teeth were already on edge especially seeing how my fellow Huntsvillians behave in public. For example, getting a late lunch, I sat at the end of the bar. Down to the last 2-3 bites, a couple chose to sit next to me. Finish lunch or move over a seat?

    I've been thinking about getting a recording of someone coughing out a lung. Then playing it on my cell phone speaker when someone sits too close.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    sticking to my plan since 03/15. there is no 'up' left in my game.
     
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    Decisions like this should NOT be left to the "general public".
    Recent evidence tends to prove that at least half of the population in the US is too stupid to make a rational choice.