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2011-13% Battery Pack Life expectancy left

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Victor Gonzalez, Jun 1, 2021.

  1. Victor Gonzalez

    Victor Gonzalez New Member

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    I got triangle of dead and the PA080 code plus PA07F code on my 2011 Prius.
    I ran Dr. Prius Life Expectancy test said: "Battery Pack has estimated 13.32% capacity left, it is at the end of life and will need to be replaced soon".
    Then I proceed to workload test individual cells. I am concern that all cells can be dead as when I measure the Open Voltage all were between 7.5v to 7.95v. but as soon as I connected the workload (a 12v bulb) all dropped to somewhere between 5.02v and 5.47v and they dropped voltage very quickly at 5 minutes they were between 4.35v and 5.15 but at 10min, they got worst ranging from 3.47v to 5.04v

    I tested a new cell and it behave very different, it started in something around 7.9v and kept the charge for longer time, even one hour late it kept 6.5v.

    The behavior on the 28 individual cells dropping so fast made me think on replacing all cells but of course this will be costly and I would like to change the less amount of cells.

    I would like to hear opinions from the expert people of the forum.
    here are the details:
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  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

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    welcome!

    how many miles/km? do you drive it much?
     
  3. Victor Gonzalez

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    it has 90,000 km. dont drive too much, maybe 20km a day on city traffic
     
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    how much quarters do you have? Wack o mole is the game that you will play.
     
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    Those modules were completely drained before you even started testing them, as evidenced by the immediate drop below 7.2 when you attached something as minor as a 12v light bulb load.. Those are acting like modules that were drained, then left alone for a short time, allowing the voltage to recover, which NiMH modules will do. Are you sure you didn't completely drain the battery by running the car only on battery power for a bit? I would try charging the modules first, and then retest, before deciding about what to replace.

    Or these are the absolutely most ragged out modules in existence. I suppose anything is possible. But a P0A7F battery deterioration code is an understatement for what you're seeing. That battery doesn't even have 1%. There is no way that HV battery could even begin to try to spin the engine to start it.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I do not know about "expert" but I've been to Panama.
    It's pretty hot and humid there, and your car is 10 years old.

    You can replace the cells individually - or - all at once but eventually you're going to probably replace them all if you keep the car long enough.
    The cost is probably going to be comparable in the end but the disadvantage of replacing them all at once is that you have to buy them all at once which will probably be slightly cheaper than playing Whack-a-mole.
    The advantage of replacing them all at once is that you only have to do it once - at least for the next 10 years or so.

    I'm not familiar with your local fuel or any differences between the North American spec Priuses and those sold where you live.
    How is the engine?
    Do Panamanian Pruises have the same engine problems as those in the US?

    If so you may want to look into that sometime soon.

    Good Luck!
     
  7. Grit

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    even with refurb ones?