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2022 Prius Prime verses Prius...things I might be overlooking?

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by daisy555, Mar 11, 2022.

  1. bisco

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    prime can use regular tires, same size wheel
     
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    Sorry in my last post meant to say the Prius XLE has the larger more expensive tires. I corrected it. Thanks for clarifying!

    I have Continental Procontact and previously used General Altimax which I didn’t care for. I’m seeing $60-$80 more for each 17” tire. Plus they wear faster. Yikes!
     
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    Well, you most likely will not get your car recalled due to tail light software like GM's hummer - tail light software - who knew such a thing existed?
     
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    Omg!
     
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    That's pretty much the flip side of what most of us Priuschat members are hoping for in the next gen Prime. Somewhere inbetween 50 and 100 would be nice. That is if there is a next gen Prime in the works. We'll see !
     
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    My level 2 charger installed in my garage never takes longer than 1 hour and 50 minutes. Plus 61 percent of my driving is in electric mode. This results in considerably less mileage on the gas engine. We all know that gas engines require more maintenance than an electric motor. While 25 to 30 miles in electric is not ideal for my commutes it is much better than having no electric at all. The car runs much smoother in electric. I hate it when the gas engines kicks on. The drag of the gas engine is a real let down. If I had 60 miles of electric, that would be ideal, but..... until they come out with solid state batteries, I am happy with the engineering that went into this vehicle.
     
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    Of course! I want that too but not a few months after buying one with 25 miles. : } I’m guessing a car with 100 range might be out of my price range.

    If I could hold out a couple of years, that would be ideal but this is a “gift” in place of inheritance. Not as wonderful as it sounds. There’s a tiny chance it can be stalled. If not for this, I’ll have to wait until used prices go down a bit.

    I need to buy an OBD checker to check hybrid battery status. I think I’m afraid of what I’ll discover. Better to be prepared.

    Thanks again!
     
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    Thanks!

    Also there are many of us who aren’t psychologically ready for all electric. Week long power outages etc.

    Solid state battery…another research topic. Ha!
     
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    And keeping track of how much it costs to charge the cars batteries, for those of us who don't have "free" solar electricity yet. So far with the Primes 8.8 - 8.9 kWh pack, it's pretty hard to notice a diff on the electric bill, cept for Ms.Bisco I've read. @bisco - how many times a day do you charge your PiPlugin normally?

    There is a wealth of infomation here about fixing older batteries and a few very experienced battery recon ditioners here willing to share what usually works best in most situations for the least about of $'s out. Some even willing to do all the grunt work for small to medium costs. Plus you can share DrPrius - HybridAssitant - Torque results here which always helps others learning howto.
     
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    i would say twice before covid, and once now. mrs.b did not notice the reduction in use, probably because the electric rates keep increasing. but at $4.50/g, we must be ahead of the game.
     
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    Thanks Daisy,

    One more thing I did not mention, is that if you do not use the EV capability of the Prime, it can be considered a waste of the raw materials to have the extra battery capacity that would be unused. That did figure into our decision process.

    One other thing that is kind of off the wall, but something I considered and will share with you, just because.

    I entertained the idea of getting some LiFeP04 batteries that we could charge at home, and at work, she could use these with an inverter to recharge the EV battery while parked at work, so she could drive the 25 miles back home on EV. I figured I might be able to get an off grid system to charge the batteries, so that it would be "free" energy, and the energy losses in an extra charge and the inverter would not be so much of a hit. I have enough other projects right now that I tabled this before even looking into how much battery capacity I would need.

    And just to be clear, I was thinking of charging the LiFeP04 battery, and then using an inverter and the L1 cord to charge the Prius just as it would be done from a home outlet. They do make 240 v inverters, and I would have looked into that as well, for self charging while stopped on shopping trips or what not.

    I don't know how that would help you any, but just thought I would mention it, since other people were mentioning that a 50 mile capacity would be what they need, and it was my thought on one way to get it.

    Also, I am less optimistic about the future availability of working, economical charging stations than your mechanic. I am as hopeful as anyone, but my personal crystal ball is more cloudy than rosy on that topic. When I see it, I will believe it, and won't bet on it before then.

    If we get a PHEV or an EV in the near future, it will be a Tesla, for their network of chargers, unless we get it with the sole idea of charging it at home. My gf would get very short tempered going around and looking for charging stations and finding them few and far between that were available and working, and I feel it would be sold shortly after she needed a charge and could not get one in a reasonable time or with minimal inconvenience.
     
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    One reason we still have our 1997 Tercel. Among other things, it is what we drive to go get parts for our other vehicles...
     
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    As a general rule, if Continental makes a tire in the size we need, that is what we use. And usually it is a variety of the Procontact.
     
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    Tail lights failing through software is better than the hybrid system doing so.
     
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    Very good point.

    That off grid system sounds interesting.

    If only my crystal ball was working. : }

    I get annoyed when I haven’t left enough time to get to the gas station. If I was heading to a functioning charger and found it not working, I would be short tempered too. Definitely something to consider.

    One last question for you. How do you feel about buying the first year of a new generation Prius? I’m guessing this next available Prius won’t be drastically different except for the rumors that it might have a more efficient engine and battery. If it’s a higher priced car, I could be stuck scrambling to find a 2022 since there are so few being made. As it stands we might know more about the 2023 before a silver 2022 appears.

    I tried responding under each of your topics but it didn’t show up properly. I’m not sure how to make that work.

    Thanks again!
     
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    I have done that 5 times now... 2000, 2003, 2009, 2012, 2017... without ever regret.
     
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    Thanks. Wasn’t the 2009 the last of Gen 2 and 2012 and 2017 were the third and second years of those generations, right? Oops I’m forgetting the Prime and Prius V had different starting years.

    Either way very dedicated and obviously loving your Prius!!
     
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    Yes. That was year-of-purchase, not model-year. Each was among early deliveries.
     
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    Got it. : } Thanks!
     
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    Hopefully anything that would go wrong would happen in the first 3 yrs and under warranty.
     
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