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no codes, yet I have brake, ABS, VSC,((!)),TPM

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by LKasdorf, Apr 4, 2022.

  1. LKasdorf

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    2008 prius 380k miles. I just finished replacing 2 low cells on HV battery and cleaning corrosion. HV battery looks good now. The car runs, but I'm getting a bunch of lights. These were here before the HV battery repair.
    I'll check again, but last time I looked, tire pressure was all OK.

    Maybe a clue- last fall, I replaced the struts, and a heater valve of some sort- don't recall the name. It was behind the driver headlight. Anyway, since I did that, I've been hearing sort of a buzz or vibration from the left front that is tied to road speed. I chalked it up to a noisy tire (tire is nearly new, but was a cheap one, probably has a lot of rolling noise), but I wonder if it is something I did wrong. Like something is running on the wheel vane for the anti skid sensor or something like that? And maybe that triggers the traction control error? But why no codes?
     
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    There are codes for sure, you'll need to get a Prius capable code reader. The tire sensors need to be replaced to turn off that light.
     
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    I had techstream running on an old laptop but when I tried it just now, it nagged me for the license code...
    Is there a plugin for torque that will read all the toyota codes?
     
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    Is Torque what you're trying to read codes with now?

    It shouldn't really need special plugins ... if it asks for codes, the car's computers will reply with codes, and Torque could show you those even if it doesn't know what they mean. Looking them up is what we've got repair manuals for.

    For the ABS/VSC/((!)) lights anyway, you don't need a scan tool of any kind. You can use a short wire between the Tc and CG terminals at the diagnostic port, and count the blinks on those lights into two-digit blink codes. (Search here with those terms for more details.)

    I'm not sure the TPMS participates in that, but if you notice that light blinking patterns too, then go ahead and write those down. :)
     
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    There are PIDs that can be installed so that Torque can recognize various vehicles, including a gen2.
     
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    Update: The TPM was not lying- my left rear was indeed, low.
    I just now checked all the tire pressures and reconnected the battery. At first it was doing odd things- like a black console. I did the acc mode, info btn, lights on and off 3x, and that eventually resolved that. Then, when the lights came back, it would not ready. I powered down and tried a few more times, and eventually it booted correctly. I still have brake, ABS, VSC,((!)) lights.

    ChapmanF thanks fore the reminder about the flashing lights code check. I'll keep that in my pocket but I'm trying to get a techstream going again.
     
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    Vehicle-specific PIDs (Parameter IDs) are useful if you want Torque to be able to read Prius-specific parameters from the car (like battery state of charge, inverter temperatures, pump speeds, and so on).

    That would be in addition to reading DTCs (diagnostic trouble codes), which I do not think Torque should require any special measures to be able to read. DTCs are just a standardized way for car ECUs to report issues.

    A scan tool might not know what all the DTCs being reported mean, but it can still show them.
     
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    It sounds like you may have a failing combination meter, best to sort that out sooner rather than later.

    You can DIY fix for under 10usd, or buy one with your mileage already programmed and has a lifetime warranty for 150 or less.
     
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    Actually I have fix the combo meter on my 2005. I'm an electronics guy so I can handle the soldering of a new cap. I thought they had resolved this by 2008? I guess not. I hate to tear into the 2008 for this, but I'll do what I have to. While we are that topic, I've seen that replacing the 100uf with 220uf is the thing to do, but I saw one guy that put in a 1000uf. I wonder what the right thing to do is. One thing for sure- I'll buy the highest quality cap that I can.
     
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    Ok- finally got techstream happening. I get a C1344 Hydraulic System(RL)
    I'm searching and it seems like it might be the ABS actuator (?) or maybe parking brake out of adjustment? The brakes seem fine on this car, but there is a speed depended buzz/vibration from the front left.
     
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    There are 5 INF codes (which you can find in the freeze frame data) that will help narrow down the trouble area. The INF code possibilities are; 581, 582, 583, 584, and 585. It would help if you could find that and post it here.

    The trouble areas are:
    • Fluid leakage
    • Brake actuator assembly
    • Disc rotor
    I hope that helps.
     
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    In the freeze frame data for the 1344, I see "Detailed Freeze DTC" 581
    What does that tell me?
     
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    Looks like potential leakage or bad actuator.

    Here is the workup for DTC C1344 (and C1341 C1342 C1343) : https://share.qclt.com/%E4%B8%B0%E7%94%B0%E6%99%AE%E7%91%9E%E6%96%AF%E5%8E%9F%E5%8E%82%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E6%89%8B%E5%86%8Cpdf%E6%A0%BC%E5%BC%8F/Repair%20Manual/04pruisr/05/21avn/cic13416.pdf

    The above is from an older 2004 manual, a later version may have a different workup for your DTC / INF.
     
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    The hydraulic pressure control on the rear left wheel has deteriorated.

    The two possible trouble areas are:
    • Fluid leakage
    • Brake actuator
    The link posted by SFO will help you diagnose it to one or the other.

    References to the handheld tester can be replaced with the equivalent Techstream procedure.
     
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