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2005 with P3000, P0A80, rear fan running constantly--best option?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by mkaresh, May 19, 2022.

  1. mkaresh

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    So my 2005 Prius with 187k miles recently displayed the usual four warning lights. These went back off for a day or two, then came back on, and this time car clearly often in limp mode, rear fan running constantly (with what seems like decent airflow). Display shows battery going between half-empty and full bars or just one down. I'm not sure it's shown a full battery since I got it from my sister in 1/20, and certainly hasn't recently. So that's also new. Shop pulled P3000 and P0A80, but no codes indicating a specific module.

    The 12v battery is a few weeks past its second birthday. The in-car diag this morning (after the car had been sitting for a couple days) showed it at 12v initially then 11.6v after I hit the power button again (to switch to accessory mode). When the previous 12v battery failed I had various symptoms with the radio and such, but nothing like the above.

    I've removed the interior trim. Everything looks fine.

    So...any chance I'm not looking at a bad battery pack?

    If I do have a bad pack, my options seem to be:

    1. Get the diag tools and replace one or more modules myself. I don't know which modules available on ebay and such are good and which are from iffy sources.

    2. Shop that pulled the codes says they've replaced individual modules in about 50 Prii, and only one came back later, and that was four years ago. They have a tech certified in hybrid battery repairs. They'd want $900 for diag and to replace up to two modules. A reduced charge (but well above zero) if it did have to go back for the same problem afterwards.

    3. Buy a reman pack from someone like Green Bean, $1524, with a "lifetime" warranty. F grade on BBB because they haven't responded to a few complaints. Judging from the forum here, their packs do sometimes fail within just a few months. One concerning wrinkle: no refunds once you pay them, even if it turns out that the problem wasn't the battery pack. There are some other sellers with similar pricing, but no lifetime warranty.

    4. Toyota battery for about $3000, which includes five hours of labor. Cosmetically the car is just fair, so even in today's market it's worth...maybe $4000? Also, the pack is currently on backorder.

    Reading the forum, I see many claims that 1-3 tend to be a waste of time and money. But the local shop is confident their repair will last.

    So...what makes the most sense? Any further tests I should perform / things I should try before pulling the trigger on one of the above?
     
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    Do not buy any remanufactured battery for over $1000. It'll work but it won't work consistently and reliably. Best to go NEW if you can afford it.
     
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    By "new" you mean only Toyota, or also the company making new lithium packs? I don't know the price there.

    I have the money, but struggle with putting $3k into a car that MIGHT be worth $4k.

    I suspect Green Bean's $1500 is at most $1000 for the battery itself, the rest being mobile installation and warranty.
     
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    Green Bean's $1500 battery is just a used battery. For $1500 you can almost get a new battery from Toyota (not sure of inventory) or newpriusbatteries.com. Those new options will be trouble free for a good few years. While Green bean will keep servicing your battery under warranty every time you break down.
     
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    Greentec not GreenBean sells a remanufactured battery with all new high capacity cells for $2250, 48 month warranty. They also have lesser options for less money. Nationwide installation locations. Check to see if one is near you. I’ve used them in a Camry previously and they are a reputable company.
    Not sure what their current installation cost is. Maybe a couple hundred dollars. Not sure, you can call and ask. Their price has gone up lately because they are a quality product and all other costs are increasing.
    2004-2009 Toyota Prius Gen 2 Hybrid Battery, Unlimited Mileage Warranty | Greentec Auto
     
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    Does anyone think that #1 or #2 is a viable way to go? Or does replacing individual modules rarely work for long?
     
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    Greentec, Greenbean, Greenturd, whatever their name, the batteries they sell are just used batteries. The wording they use is very tricky, implying you get "all new high capacity cells". But if you call them and ask if the battery you get is BRAND SPANKING NEW, NEVER INSTALLED OR REMOVED FROM ANOTHER CAR, see what response they give you. If they can tell you it's brand new and never installed into another car, then maybe they're selling a new battery (which I doubt)
     
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    Which part of the country are you near?
    If you have the time and interest, check for corrosion in the socket and connector of the HV battery ECU.

    Have you cleaned up the HV battery fan lately? (won't fix your issue, but something to do when the trim is removed)
     
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    I did remove the interior trim today, but haven't removed the fan yet. Flow out of the exit seemed good.

    I'll check the socket and connector.
     
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    You apparently got a hold of the wrong person at Greentec
    If you called them at all.