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  1. ias61489

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    Im on comp number 10 out of 12. The best comparable car they have which is 2008 with 79k on the clock for 11,999 which they know down to $11,311 after "adjusting" the price has 3 accidents on it, was a movement fleet vehicle with no maintenance history to show. Also has a tow for mechanical breakdown and a filed emissions inspection awhile after. Then shortly after that it only was driven 1,800 miles in 2.5 years and sold. So it went from being driven around 7,000 miles a year to less than 720 average for the last 2 and half years of its life? sounds to me like it may have some issues with it given the history. Who knows. But still more miles then what the NYS code says to use and when compared to mine has a rougher history. More miles and for sale for 12k with a multiple accident history!

    2 pages in so far of shooting down their "comparables" once I'm done ill add in my comparables and I'll make sure they are actually available and provide links to be helpful!
     
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    Glad I'm not the person who is on the receiving end of your reply. Looks like you're gonna go after 'em real good like. Just remember to edit it down to your strongest points so they don't use your weakest points to dismiss you.
     
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    Asking PC people for legal advice is like getting medical advice from watching a TV doctor show. Get an attorney and move on.
     
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    Almost as bad as someone making comments when it's obvious they didn't read any of the post. At no point did I ask anyone for legal advice, since when would asking someone's opinion on of they think a car is fixable or not legal advice? Finding a lawyer was mentioned from people who are trying to be helpful. Mind your business and move on

    SM-N986U ?
     
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    Thanks for your information. I'm following this closely. I had an older truck get some minor hail damage back in 2018. I took it in for an estimate. Bam. Totalled. If I want to keep it. I got less money and a Salvaged Title Scar....meaning I can't ever get it insured for collision and nobody in Colorado wants a truck with a salvaged title. I had about 7 minor hail dings on the roof and 4 on the hood. A replacement truck in the same condition doesn't exist as I had many new parts and modifications. I kept the truck and someday will have the dings fixed. Its frustrating when your car gets totalled and you can't buy a replacement for the money you get. Plus your out a car.
     
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    Yea... The enjoyment of PriusChat requires clicking the "ignore" button on some of the participants. The person you're responding to in this comment is one of them.
     
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    Sorry to hear that. I was having some problems with a slightly sprained hip and my Dr. prescribed meloxicam (generic Mobic). It is similar to Advil, but stronger. Anyway, that stuff is a pretty amazing analgesic and anti-inflammatory. At half the recommended dose (because I am one of those people who get headaches from Ibuprofen) everything stopped hurting in hours. Not just the hip, also the wonky elbow tendons, even the two thumb joints which are apparently just a little arthritic, but had never bothered me enough to seek treatment. Unfortunately the headaches did eventually kick in and I had to stop after 10 days. Still, that gave the hip some time to heal and it is much better after than before. The other stuff just returned to the previous pain level.

    You should definitely be seeking compensation for your stated level of suffering.
     
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    They've done studies on personal injuries where insurance claims and lawsuits are involved and a surprising percentage of people are unable to recover from their symptoms until their claim or case is resolved.
     
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    That sucks! I'm gonna hold onto this prius as know the history and know it was taken care of overall. If it was an accident I caused I would have just had it fixed without going through insurance most llikely.

    I figured, there's always a few in each forum. Ive been apart of a Honda Pilot and 4runner forums also.

    Im very hopeful that these symptoms go away in a few weeks maybe the PT will help. After being out of work for nearly 8 years due to my first injury, Then covid and the need to be home for my kids i was eager to get back to work so keeping my hopes up this doesn't last!
    The urgent care dr didn't offer anything besides telling me to take Tylenol and ibuprofen. Maybe the spine dr I will see next week will send me to pain management who could have some other advice.
     
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    I'm gonna push as hard as I can since it doesn't cost me anything but my time really! Ive researched every car they used a a comp and sharing why I don't feel they are good comparables. Mostly because of mileage. I'm trying to stick to the points about mileage and for the government fleet vehicle making a point about thats it was in a fleet and had 3 accidents. I am pointing out that the distances they put for where the dealerships are located from my zip code are inaccurate but I'm gonna clarify towards the end that I only did that to point out the inconsistencies/ errors in the report. Few other small things like saying my car dent have package #2 the it does, it says I dont have remote starter when I do.. and for some reason it says I have disc brakes all around when its very obvious I dont. This was all done by the adjuster at the bodyshop so she had the car in front of her not sure how these errors could have been made.
     
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    Nationwide I can only find 6 comparable models within 2008, mileages ranging from 56k to 83k. Going to 2007 or 2009 yields more results but not many. After adding up and getting the average price it comes out to $13,074.83 plus local tax, tag, document fees and waste tire fee the total is... $14,282.16. I look forward to seeing how close I can get to that number.

    I found 3 trunk lids my color in my area which i did not expect. Both arnt in the shape i would hope but not bad. 1 bumper but its been spray painted a bit also. I found 2 perfect examples but 2 and half hours away, I would need to fix the brakes on my 4runner first and that would be a low prices given my back pain. Trying to decide what to do take the less than prefect example or push through and get the better ones farther away. Oddly enough the better examples are cheaper too!
     
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    The closets comps I have found are about$9,000 and they had 15k more miles than my wife’s car. I am still looking.
     
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    I found one more that sold sometime in the last 7 days. Was first for sale on 06/10/22 for 13,995. made sure to send another email to USAA and CCC about it just to add it in. My guess is they will say that mine are farther away then theirs.. ya know the ones that don't exist anymore with no proof of when they sold or actually existed. Easy to make up details when can't find any information on them. There is VINs on each car when they push back ill ask for detailed sale records or carfaxes showing new title dates.

    I have pointed out to them that comparing cars from over a month ago may not accurately reflect todays market values given the current state of the market. They will not like me.

    I'm also working on my homeowners claim from april. Filed my appeal and got a call from the adjuster supervisor today. She was not as cheery as she was last time we spoke, I wonder if that has something to do with my appeal and the fact I emailed it to the CEO of State Farm also! I told her call next week Im in pain!

    What were the details of your car if you care to share. Maybe ill take a look just to see what I find!
     
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    My wife has a 2008 white base model with no SKS and Halogen headlights. We upgraded the radio, replaced all the interior seats with the upgraded leather ones from a different car. I upgraded all the arm rest trim covers to leather and the rear seat side covers to the gray leather as well. Driver's seat is heated. LED Strip light in the trunk.I spent 2 days installing Killmatz in the roof, floor, and each door panel. The inside is sooooooo quiet now. She commutes to work and takes calls as she drives so she needs it to be super quiet. New invertor coolant pump at 116K miles, newer tires, replaced the transmission fluid also, added white shark fin antenna. She has 119K miles on it. Last week we got caught in a hail storm and now the roof and hood have about 50. dimples from the hail. I am 95 percent just if we file a claim with my insurance company they will total it and give is like $6,000 which won't buy us a new car and this one has been paid off for years so we don't want a car payment. My wife is embarrassed to drive it now (she says it looks like a golf ball) so we might try and just sell it as is for maybe $8K. Because if we have it totalled it will get a Salvaged Title and be very , very, hard to sell at that point. Not sure what we are going to do.
     
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    Ill take a look at what I find. If you don't mind share a zip or I see Colorado I can just see that. Sounds nice! Thats something I was thinking of doing was sound deadening as they are loud! hmm another option would be to try find a white hood from eBay or car-part.com from local junk yards. I may be traveling about an hour and half for the perfect parts for mine! Could try a local body shop or see if you have a local dent wizard and see what they can do and how much before calling insurance. I will try take a look later today and see what I find. My guess is with that mileage it would be around 8k to 10k plus tax tag etc. Can always strip what you wanna keep from it or f you have the originals put them back in of you went that route.
     
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    we are in 80919. Zip code. drug and crime central...unfortunately. The Springs is no longer a nice place to live.
     
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    First search within 100 miles finds 3 2 listed as touring and one that has fogs but doesn't say touring. all over 6k cheapest one has 214k second 198k and 3rd 100k for 11,999. Could do ok price wise with some fight I'm sure. If it were me id get some quotes to fix it, if you wanna go through insurance you may be able to get 8 to 10 out of them fix it and throw something in your savings account. Thats my plan anyways. I have a set of touring wheels im gonna repaint and get some new tires for also.

    Unfortunately its happening everywhere! I have 3 kids and often wonder what they will grow up seeing.

    I sent in my 3 pages and an extra comp after to USAA and CCC. CCC emailed back and said they will not do anything with it until USAA sends it in. Funny how the adjuster at USAA told me to send it to them but they refuse to accept it smh
     
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    Thanks for the leg work. I’ll talk to my wife about it and come up with a plan.
     
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    np. Keep in mind they will try offer you probably 5 to 6 given that they told me mine is valued at $8500! gonna take some leg work and fight to get anymore from them. I'm waiting to hear back now myself.
     
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    I finally got a response from USAA! Ignored what I wrote and comps I sent of course. I emailed him back something curious how he will respond. This is what they sent. If anyone wants to see my email to them let me know I can load it on here! One thing I did point out was this
    I see many issues with the "comparables" that I was provided. Quick example
    Example Comp #8 has 143,261 and is currently for sale for $8,495. Has noticeable dent on right fender, missing trim ring and center cap on right wheel. No other pictures available. The price then was adjusted to $9,551. Can you please explain that adjustment and how it was determined?
    On the other hand below it is Comp #9 with 58,075 miles for sale for $10,000 ( which I could not find for sale on their website or Autotrader from where I was told it was sourced) and then it is adjusted down to $8,079 which is $1,472 LESS than a car with 84,186 miles MORE than it has. Please explain how the valuation was determined on this car and how it would have a value of less than a car with almost 3 times the mileage.
    It has the appearance the report was made with adjustments to fit the price that wants to be paid for my car. My car has 66,105 and was valued at $8,449. How can my car which has LESS miles than comp #8 by 77,156 miles be worth $1,102 LESS than the comp #8?
    I have a feeling he won't like me lol

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