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Prime Day Deal for a cheap EVSE

Discussion in 'Prime Accessories and Modifications' started by drash, Jul 13, 2022.

  1. drash

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    For those with Amazon Prime there is a portable Schumacher L1 and L2 EVSE for $138.54
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    Has both NEMA 5-15/NEMA 6-20P connector and charges at 16 Amps for both L1 and L2. Make sure the circuit you plug it into is 20A. It is 28 feet long.


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    Thanks for the info.

    Didn't need anything for the car, but did buy a bunch of coffee paraphernalia on sale. I had a couple Amazon gift cards I received for Farther's day. Ended up saving a few bucks, but those Prime Day deal price drops tend to repeat even after the event is over.

    I am excited to try out the new competition-grade portafilter basket on my De'Longhi espresso machine. ;)
     
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    Coffee is always king! :)
     
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    We wanted to future-proof so installed a 50 amp circuit in the garage and a ChargePoint CPH50.
     
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    Yep, installed a NEMA 14-50 and a 50A circuit too for the future. This portable EVSE would a great addition if it had the same NEMA. The NEMA 6-20P on this EVSE is not really popular in the wild, but maybe @bwilson4web has seen it more than I have.
     
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    I would think a 20amp 110vac would make more sense than a 6-20, could potentially fry my outlets, must be a British thing

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    The EVSE main plug is a NEMA 6-20P and this is the receptacle for that. Might be just a home bound 240V - 20A connection as I haven't seen that many in the wild. The EVSE then has an adapter cord to plug into a normal 5-15. But the reviews I read said it still puts out 16A even in 110V circuits. That's pretty high for 5-15 plug.
     
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    Not exactly, except for specific leaf models most onboard chargers self limit to 8 or 12 amps when they detect 110 volts regardless of the EVSE pilot.

    Honestly I would love the idea of 20 amp 110vac since I have outlets for it, but that’s the thing, a 20amp 110 outlet is normally NOT 5-15, further my car won’t draw more than 12 amps off 110.
     
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    So, in my house, we have both 15A and 20A circuit breakers in the main panel, but AFAIK, all of the receptacles on the walls in my house are of NEMA 5-15R type. I don't see any NEMA 5-20R receptacle even on the circuit I know is fed from the 20A breaker. We don't have any appliances with NEMA 5-20P plug, so this has never caused a problem. But is this a code violation?

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    Not a violation because it probably is grandfathered under older codes and is residential based although new builds and remodeling require 5-20 plugs to indicate you have circuit breakers for 20A (and 12 ga wiring). The 5-20R down supports 5-15 plugs as well because it's possible to have more than 15A with a couple of power hungry appliances like coffee makers, bread makers, toaster ovens, etc.. I know my house has 5-20 plugs for all my 20A circuits when we remodeled to support fridge, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave and countertop appliances. Most appliances including even fridges, freezers, heaters, etc. still use the 5-15 plugs and I'm sure they use at least 15A. Even my Dewalt Mitre saw which is rated at 15A, still has a 5-15 Plug and you and I both know you should have a 20A circuit for it. 6-20 typically is reserved for commercial/industrial installations.
     
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    and to think toyota wanted $1,150. for a replacement
     
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    I believe there's a confusion in NEMA outlets/sockets. 6-20 is 220VAC; 5-20 is 110VAC. They look similar. If the right prong is horizontal rather than vertical; it's 220VAC.
    When I wired houses for Habitat for Humanity, the kitchen & bathrooms were wired with 20A breakers. In most cases we only used the standard 5-15 outlets chained to a GFCI. We only installed 5-20 at the microwave, range, and refrigerator outlets. While all kitchen outlets went to 20A breakers; they only got 5-15 duplex outlets.
     
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    What’s this then? They are all over my place

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    Must be older non-NEMA standard receptacles? This page talks about it but fails to give the name for it. (the far right receptacle in the photo below)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector

    EDIT: Upon further reading the legend on the photo on the above wiki page. I found the following explanation. They are either called 1-15R or 1-20R depending on the amp (120v, 15 or 20A). BUT no longer used.
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    Pre-1962 non-grounding (Type A) devices to right of ruler: NEMA 1-15R, for use on 15 or 20 ampere circuits, accepts 1-15P plugs only "Double T-slot", not manufactured since early 1960s, accepts 1-15P and the long-obsolete 2-15P (These last two for use only in existing circuits where no grounding conductor is available)

    There are some obsolete 1-15R or 1-20R (120V, 15 or 20A) receptacles which are mechanically able to accept 1-15P (120V), 1-20P (120V), 2-15P (240V), or 2-20P (240V) plugs. These receptacles are typically found in older residential buildings and are not allowed to be installed under current NEC codes. In addition to the lack of grounding, these obsolete receptacles could allow a connected device to overheat and create a fire hazard if a device designed for the wrong voltage is connected. These problematic outlets are easily identifiable due to their lack of ground, along with both openings on the receptacle face being a sideways "T" shaped opening that appear to be mirrored on the vertical center line of the face. Due to the potential danger of a voltage mismatch, whenever possible these receptacles should be replaced. Depending on local code, replacement with a "repair" approved non-grounded receptacle may be sufficient.

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    I foresee my future 220VAC charging experience

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    Didn't realized you owned a Bolt. LoL :D:p:LOL::ROFLMAO::cool: I was laughing when GM told their customers to not charge in their garage and to watch the car while it charged........:whistle::eek::oops:
     
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