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Did they remove ability to see tire pressure from app?

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  1. GalaxyRain

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    Did Toyota remove the ability to see the tire pressure from the Toyota app? I can’t find it anywhere. I even resubscribed to Safety Connect thinking that would fix it.

    I also tried scanning my car with my own OBDII scanner and have they somehow hidden the TPMS sensors from OBDII scanners? Because I couldn’t get a reading.
     
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    ...for RAV4HV, there were apparently some app updates that restored the function...but I am not a subscriber...
     
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    So is there any way to see my tire pressure sensor readings other than using tire gauge and checking them all manually? I didn’t know they were going to take away features after I bought my car! :mad:
     
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    Toyota killed Entune just before I bought my car. Surprise!

    If there's a tire pressure issue/concern, it will show up on the multi-function display.
    Just chill otherwise. (y)


    You need a better OBD-II scanner. See one of the threads about scanners.
    An ~$800 Autel scanner reads TPMS data without any problem.
    My guess is that you can get an reader/app for less than ?$100?.


    Through the RF-data link that TPMS sensors use, with an Autel TPMS reader/programmer, you can remotely and wirelessly, read tire pressure, inside tire temperature, and tire sensor ID.
    Iirc, the Autel ?408? is ~$250.
    The Autel ?508? is ~$350, and it can also read the TPMS data via the OBD-II port.
    You could walk around the car, put the Autel TPMS scanner near the tire (I put it near the center, so I don't worry about being at the other end of the tire - across from the TPMS), push the "read" TPMS info button, and then - "magic".
    Well, actually, "old" RF technology, merged with new very low power electronics. :)

    I cloned my oem TPMS sensor IDs, into my mounted Blizzak snow tires. I have the Autel programmable TPMS sensors mounted in my snow tires.


    I never had the ability to read tire pressure in the Toyota app (2022 Prime Limited).

    Good Luck!
     
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    I had the tire pressure light come up on my dash which is why I was asking in the first place.

    And no my OBDII scanner is not a fancy $800 one. I’m not a mechanic nor do I own a shop. I have it because my last car, a 2009 Chevy Cobalt, kept having the check engine light come on for many different reasons, and I wanted to find out, when that happened, if I could make it home safely or if I was going to end up on the side of the road if I kept driving. That car had on-dash tire pressure readings so I didn’t buy the scanner with that feature in mind. (I bought the scanner in 2018.) To me it is such old technology that I think it’s ridiculous that it’s not available on-dash on my Prius.
     
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    Fwiw, yes the Toyota app is a POS.
    But, I can do remote "AC/heat/precondition" to 68F, via the phone network.
    And, no need to deal with an aftermarket remote starter.
    Not all of us, have a ground floor office, with a huge window, with our car parked right outside our office. Yea, life sucks. ;)

    Sorry people, I asked. My employer said "no", when I asked for them to provide an environmentally controlled, closed private garage, just for my car. ;)
    The nerve of them! :)
    So, in real-life, like the majority of America, I have to deal with the cold, ice, and snow.
    It is nice to be able to have a warm car, when I get to the car. (y)

    So, to lock in the current subscription rate, instead of waiting ~2 years, I "subscribed" now.
    And, yes, the subscription starts after new car trail period ends.


    Note, I can also see the state of charge of my car/traction-battery, if the car is charging(a Prime), and the approx time until the car is fully charged.
    At work, we have about 500,000,000,000 people with EVs, and half an EV charger. Well, maybe it's not that bad.
    Still, the ratio is large, and getting larger every day. So, if possible, many of us, try to move our cars when they are charged (e.g. move at lunch time). The Chargepoint chargers don't always send notifications in a timely manner.
     
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    I agree that not being able to see the tire pressures on the Prius display (even through a number of Pita menus), is a big downside.
    In general, the Prius interface is many years behind the times.
    Fwiw, for non-car people, that also is a massive indication of priority that Toyota now puts on the Prius.

    Manufactures have x-amount of money.
    Only idiots (cough cough, GM for a long time), don't keep their top selling, most profitable, most important vehicles, as up to date as possible.
    So, now, for Toyota, the Rav4 and the Camry get updates more often, get features sooner, and so on.

    That is very different from ~10 years ago. Back then, Toyota often out a lot of new technology in the Prius first/quickly.

    Yea, my Prime doesn't have Auto Android (imho, inexcusable after 2020), I can't see tire pressures anywhere (?Wth?), and there are a number of other things that should be in any vehicle built after 2020.

    However, imho, nothing comes close to the Toyota reliability.
    And, Tesla, with it's _disposable throw-away cars (but, still expensive)_ , is still not close to the real-life efficiency of my 7+ year old technology Prime (~5.5 miles/kWH).

    Yea, it's far from perfect.
    But, the Honda Clarity ended up being one of the biggest POS car models ever produced, by any manufacture.
    Sigh...
    Out of the 500,000,000,000 EVs that people have at work, I still have never ever seen a Honda Clarity.

    So, if someone that wants a hybrid/plug-in car (not an SUV), that lasts a long time, there aren't many choices.
     
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    I downloaded the Toyota app when I got my 2022 Venza at the end of May. To see tire pressure, select Vehicle Status, then select See Details. Hope this helps.
     
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    Imho, to call the Toyota app a flaming POS that would get rate an "F" for a 2nd grade programming project, would be far too great a compliment. :)

    Fwiw, what can, and can not be seen, by the POS Toyota app varies by year, model, trim, options... and of course, the position of various planets, and comets. :)


    I have a 2022 Prime Limited. So, no tire pressure for me.
    As I understand, it's mainly because of my 11" display. It's the same reason I don't have Android Auto in the top of the line trim, for the Prius Prime. That's sad, very sad.
    For a super short time, in the Toyota app, I did have the ability to turn on the front, and/or rear defrosters in the "start car" option. WOW! Yes, that option really, really worked! So, it is "possible" for Toyota to do and to support. Of course, that went away, and hasn't come back. My guess is that the we will not see that option come back. If the option went away, the option likely went away because of issues, code-base changes, or something as simple as the/a knowledgeable person left that software team.

    It seems like at least once a week, the traction-battery charge status "just disappears" (I have a PHEV).

    The app, and it's abilities, are very inconsistent between models, years, trims, options, and so on.
    That's not counting what a flaming POS the app is in general.

    Still, as I mentioned, I subscribed. It may be a POS app, but having an ~90% POS app, is better than nothing.
    Btw, during the recent heat wave, their POS over-worked servers (allocated/paid for), resulting in the app being mostly worthless, for most of the day, to start/stop the climate precondition, or to check on the traction-battery charge status amount.

    I won't defend what a POS the app is, or the pure cr*p quailty, that Toyota releases.
    As I mentioned, for my needs and desires, to me, it's still worth the $80/year (future cost).
    The cost/benefit will vary for different people.


    My guess is that the support for the Prius Prime is near the very bottom.
    There are real costs to update/support the app/features.
    Toyota sales are crashing, and will stay low for 3-6+ months.
    Toyota is having severe supply issues.

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    Mayby your car has indirect pressureloss control.
    Is added to ABS system, and detects one tire making more cycles a second, wich it does when rollingcircumverence get smaller by lesser tirepressure.
     
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    Toyota allows *some* higher trims of RAV4HV owners to see Tire Pressure on the dash screen.
    As an lower LE trim owner, I do not qualify to see tire pressures.

    I now use an Autel TS401 reader for my cars which cost me $135 on Amazon...but that model has since been updated.

    Of course, as mentioned above, the Low Tire Pressure warning light will come on if you drop below set alarm pressure.
     
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    If you have a TPMS warning light on, then you should examine the tires immediately. No, the warning does not tell you which tire has a problem, but either one or more of the tires are low or you have a defective TPMS sensor(s) in the tire. If you have a tire gauge, then check the tire pressure. If any of the tires are low on pressure, then have it fixed at a tire shop. They will have a TPMS tool that can find out which tire.

    As far as checking TPMS sensor data via ECU, there are OBDII dongles and phone apps that can do that, which may be cheaper than dedicated TMPS tools like Autel. But, OBDII and ECU can not tell you which tire is low. It has no directional antenna to distinguish the location of the tire on the car.
     
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    we should all be checking our tire pressures regularly with a gauge, not relying on low pressure lights.

    it can be a life or death safety issue.

    too many people buy cars these days thinking the electronics will save them from themselves
     
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    Why Toyota would program different app functions for varying models, trims, etc. is crazy. To paraphrase LOTR, "One App Shall Rule Them All"...
     
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    To answer the OP question, yes it is still there for the Prius just follow the above directions.
     
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    Toyota App? LOL

    I had a Lexus app with my 2017 IS350. Utter trash. Used it for one day and got rid of it, what a clunky POS that and the "infotainment" system were.

    Toyota is good a lot of things... tech is not one of them. I would abandon the app and forget it exists.
     
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    With some updates in June/July I did get a little pop up when opening the app saying that hey were aware of some TPMS info not flowing to the app for some models. Apps are often rolled out over time so you may have grabbed an older version. Check if there are any updates to the app.

    The other thing is that the Prius doesn't have a very intelligent TPMS system. Even when it does display the info in the app or to an OBDII scanner you would have to manually tell it which tire is in which location. If you've had a tire rotation it may not be accurate. For what it's worth I can view TPMS with my Carista OBDII on my 2022 Prius Prime even though I can't see it in my Toyota app (see below about head units/trims and toyota app features).

    If your light is on you will probably still need to feed some quarters into an air machine at a gas station and check them all anyway. Make sure to reset the TPMS after you do. If it comes on again in a day or 2 you've got a leak somewhere.

    It seems the telemetrics depends on your head unit. The LE trim Prius Prime with the smaller head unit will send TPMS to the app. The XLE and Limited trims with the 11.5" screens does not. Since the models are all on different production runs they aren't all using the same head units.
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    I don’t have anything that says Vehicle Status. Tapping the VIN just copies it so I can paste it. I’m on iOS 15.6 and there are no updates for the app.

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    Yes, of course I pulled into the nearest gas station and checked them manually with a gauge. I’m just frustrated that a feature I thought I had at least through my smartphone has been removed.
     
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    Here's what I see on my app...

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    As an "Oh, by the way", SOME gas station air compressors have a little button in the back which, if you press it 2 or 3 times, will turn the compressor on without feeding it any quarters.
     
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