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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. jzchen

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    I thought I mentioned this but that Paxlovid can have bad side effects to some. In fact the Internal Medicine (IM) doctor down the street stopped recommending it to patients after trying it himself…
     
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    But the risk of not taking it is a big factor
     
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    My mother-in-law (fully vaxed) was hospitalized when she caught it. I do believe they gave her Paxlovid. The doctor down the street has his own private practice and primarily deals with patients in a clinical setting. I am guessing it is dependent on severity of the symptoms. If you don’t have comorbidities/able to walk into your doctors office…

    I’ll ask my wife when she gets up local time here in Madrid is 7:50 am and she’s still asleep. Although she may be biased because she deals with kids….
     
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    Consider this. I had the first influenza when I was 8 or 9 years old. It was horrific. Only way to describe it is. It was like having sand inside your body. Because it was a very hard virus.
    People were dying because the body hurt to do any normal function like
    Breathing: The person gets pneumonia from not breathing the way they're supposed to breathe and expelling the humidity inside the lungs.
    Eating: it hurt so bad to lift your hand to your mouth and not to mention chew. People were dying of starvation.
    ECT....
    I survived this and After I had it they developed a vaccine specifically in order to mutate it out of this very dangerous and deadly form.
    Congratulations they accomplished this Now is just the 3-10day thing a little bit more harmful than the cold.
    Let's take a look now.
    Did they congratulate themselves and stop making the flu shot. NO
    Do people still get the flu if they get the flu shot YES
    Argument that sickness would have been worse is mute since there is absolutely nothing but there words to back it up.
    On the other hand I only had basic vaccines to get into school 45ish years ago and a tetanus shot. I'm never sick more then 2 days and that's rare.
    Circling Back this tetanus shot I had.
    I was giving plasma in the offered me a tetanus shot and I thought it would be okay so I took it. Well there is a story here. I don't eat fish so I am not never was inundated with the Mercury that's in the ocean so this can not be because of that. But like 3 times a year I used to eat tuna fish as a comfort food grandma would give me for lunch. I never had problems untill this tetnus shot. But all of a sudden my prostate seem to have problems with this tuna fish because every time I had tuna fish my prostate swelled and had prostate problems. This continues onto all things that come out of the ocean I have found out throughout the years. I was dealing with the problem and didn't put two and two together until fairly recently like 2020. I had realized that I never had a problem with fish or these things until I had this tetanus shot. On that note I will say what helps the prostate is a simple glass of tomato juice once a day while you're having the problem it will go away shortly.
    I Gots a question about that. Why does our medical industry not tell you you drink tomato juice when you're having a prostate problem?
    I Gots another question.
    Are these people making these things really on our side because I gots lots of questions about quite a few different things that our food and medical systems is doing to us.




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    the problem is, your suposed to take it within 5 days of symptoms or a positive test i think. so you can't afford to wait too long to make a decision.
    tbh, idk how well it even works against all the newest variants
     
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    no offense ralph, but you rambling is a bit incoherent. would you mind breaking it down to one subject and related questions at a time?

    regardless, i am not a doc or a scientist, so i probably won't be able to answer any of your questions.

    pharma is in the business of making vaccines and medications 'for profit'.

    that doesn't make them bad, but individuals can do bad things to increase profits, and we have watchdogs for that. but like anything in life, the system is not 100% effective.
    otoh, there are a vast number of vaccines and medications that are safe and effective for most of the population, but there is always a percentage, however big or small, that may suffer minor to very serious consequences.
     
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    I asked my wife:

    Mother(-in-law) did not get Paxlovid, they gave her monoclonal anti-bodies, but have since discontinued using that.

    She clarified that they do recommend Paxlovid at her work for those 12 yrs old and up.

    Have not spoken to neighbor about their current recommendation….
     
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    @Raphael Muscarelle I do believe they used mercury in vaccines as a preservative. IF they did, and you developed some sort of immune response to it which caused trouble with seafood, I can explain some.

    We Asians tend to develop an issue with lactose/milk products as we age. I don’t think any of that happened when we were babies, but later in life we build up a gradual resistance until it reaches the level that there is a response. (This was per my immunology professor back in college). It takes years…

    Similarly, an issue with mercury will build up, maybe you would have enjoyed your fish one more time before having the same issue the next…
     
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    There are many plants besides tomatoes that empirically improved benign prostate hyperplasia. Tomatoes have been studied in the white-lab-coat way. None of that information is hard to access.
     
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    The Point is American doctors can't tell you this.
    Along with many other things.
    Why?
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    Maybe I should have been informed I would get a dose of mercury. I just might not have gotten that.
    What happened to do no harm.
    What I think explains why do no harm means nothing anymore.
    The short is they are not on your side.
    I got lots of explanations about what's going on.
    Now tell me why they are malicious to the population.
    I'm sure it's due to who Rockefeller and his friends are.
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    Just maybe bypassing your natural filters with substances directly injected might not be a good idea.
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    While I’m not sure about the past, there are many instances when I see an information sheet given to me when I get a vaccine. It is required by law. They also will ask if you have had any bad reactions to vaccine in the past. Finally they will disclose for example to my son egg albumin/latex may be used/allergen concerns (he’s a vegan and not too happy about egg).

    The amount would be so small it’s probably less than that found in fish. (Not scientifically measured but my hunch)…

    The disclosures/pre-shot questionare, and post shot information are USA law.
     
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    we've moved on from plant based medicine to lab created medicine. there are many benefits to this, as we are a healthier society overall, and there are some drawbacks as well.

    i'm sure the first lab created medicines must have been a boon to healthcare, or they wouldn't have become popular.
    of course, there was an intemediate phase of traveling shysters selling home brewed hydroxychloroquine
     
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    who is rockefeller? and who are his/her friends?

    you think when you go to the hospital with breast cancer, and they prescribe chemotherapy, they are not on your side?
     
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    or it might be a great idea, if you've read about any of the historical epidemics, pandemics and the like
     
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    Only as long as the money holds out.

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    I have and they didn't have to come up with SADS. I also have spoken to many medical professionals during this coof time. Since they came to my area for vacations. Let's just say the numbers you saw aren't exactly accurate.
    But should ask this question.
    Why all the O- people I spoke to that lived with coof positive people never tested positive and was never sick.
    Why didn't they study that?
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    They are. You just missed it.

    Certain people appear to be genetically immune.
     
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    Your first influenza case? You were lucky, many of us had it younger. Some several times.

    The first influenza? Not possible. The fact that you are still alive is proof that you were born long long after the first influenza. Epidemics that sound like influenza go back as far as recorded history, e.g. 8000 years ago. Solid modern descriptions of it go back a half millennium.

    The 1918 Flu Pandemic? If you were age 8 for that, then you are at least 112 years old now, and you can count the still-living males older than yourself on one hand.

    Or do you mean any of the less severe influenza pandemics since then, such as 1957, 1968, 1977, or 2009?

    The first flu vaccine approved for civilian use was in 1945, about a quarter century after the 1918 Flu, though some earlier versions used by the military in WWII. Since this was after you had the flu, then you must be over 85 years old. Congratulations for still being healthy enough to still participate in forums such as this. My dad of similar age isn't so well.

    For most people in most years, it always was, even before vaccines.

    By friends, do you mean his usual co-conspirators such as the Rothschilds, the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, Queen Elizabeth, George Soros, Bill Gates, the Koch Brothers, the Federal Reserve and other international bankers, the Pizzagate gang, whoever murdered Vince Foster and Jeffery Epstein, and Jewish Space Lasers? And numerous others I missed? Yeah, it must be that group of friends.

    Oh, don't forget that John Rockefeller was born in 1839, was already well into his senior years when the 1918 Flu hit, and died in 1937 at age 97, well before any flu vaccines were approved for anyone.

    Or do you mean his brother William Jr., born 1842, died 1922? Or their father William Sr., born 1810, died 1906?
     
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