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All Mounts Replacement

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Su Mo, Jan 20, 2023.

  1. Su Mo

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    I’m looking to DIY all engine mounts of my prius. I bought it used at 200k. Feels like engine is jerking when I accelerate and when I let go off of the accelerator.

    can you please reply me with a good video of Prius engine mount replacement?

    I looked up in the internet but couldn’t find anywhere.

    thank you
     
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    I think you're going to find that mount replacement is going to be futile and not going to gain you much I can't see the mounts in a Prius really ever wearing out per se there's not enough engine nice person if you will or power to rip mounts off and we can these modern type mounts more than likely your engine's about to blow up just to be simple about it so your engine wobbling around in your engine compartment in this type of setup is almost guaranteed not to be mounts unless somebody's changed an engine before done something like that and literally tried to lift the engine off the mounts with them not unbolted and even then that's a stretch Good luck.
     
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    Is the engine coolant level stable in the reservoir? How about cold-starts, any knock/shake?
     
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    I feel the wobble up when I accelerate or when engine power kicks in and wobble down whenever I release the gas pedal. It really feels like the engine is loose in the engine bay.
     
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    I just checked and the coolant is just a little less than the “L”(low) level. I will level it up to “F” immediately. I didn’t imagine how coolant could be the cause of the wobble.
     
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    I get what you’re saying now. Yes, the coolant level is just a little less than “L” which is not good. That level has been stable since a month I purchased this car. This car has 210k miles just so u know.
     
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    Maybe somebody worked on the car and has left something loose. The mount bolts and all that most of them are very easy to see so shouldn't be a problem You should be able to have somebody sit in the car and accelerators move the car with the hood up just a few feet you should be able to see it pretty smartly You might could duplicate some of it with a pry bar personally I've never seen a Prius with bad mounts where the engine was able to rock around like it did in the front end drive car with a dog bone. So it's hard to really imagine other than something being seriously out of balance and then you would have the clanking of the plate that's in between the engine and the transmission it's kind of like a flywheel but it's not I think it's a torque plate so it'll be interesting to see what this turns out to be.
     
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    Often we hear people thinking their motor mounts are bad when it was actually a leaky head gasket causing misfires. In a gen3 Prius this will severely shake the engine combined with a metallic rattling. Watch the coolant; if it drops again its head gasket or rebuilt engine time.
     
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    Yeah this.

    If it’s the head gasket, follow up with a full EGR cleaning.

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    Here’s what I’m planning on to combat this issue. I will level up the coolant to F and watch it frequently. I will also figure out symptoms for a blown head gasket and I will reply here. Please tell me tips to isolate if the issue is blown head gasket. Other than car jerking and having someone slowly rev the engine for me to physically inspect if the engine is bouncy, lemme knowany other ways to say this is blown gasket. Thank you
     
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    Two tests are commonly used:

    A leak-down test will pressurize the cylinders, one at a time, at Top Dead Centre on the compression stroke, with a special gauge set. How well it holds pressure, and where it leaks, determine head gasket integrity.

    Boroscope inspection of the cylinders, with the coolant system pressurized. If a particular cylinder looks much cleaner, that’s evidence coolant is leaking past the head gasket. There may also be tears of coolant evident.
     
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    1. Lose more coolant with continuing symptoms is definitive. #1 with a bullet.

    2. A quality borescope with multiple views operated by an experienced operator can be definitive when a cleaner piston top (steam cleaned) is observed. It won't be easy with a cheap borescope and the piston won't look new, just cleaner than others.

    3. Sometimes a pressurized coolant system with a borescope may detect the coolant drops when observing the head gasket. This is much harder but has been done. Its a test where false negatives are common.

    4. Leakdown tests and coolant gas detectors almost always give false negatives unless the hg leak is massive. Massive is not typical on a Prius. Coolant in the oil is not typical. Both are old school conventional engine techniques.

    Be aware flippers sometimes use short term sealers to mask the problem. When this has been done it can take weeks to months for the sealer to wearoff before pre-existing hg leaks reappear.
     
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    ^ This. Buying a 2010 with 200K miles, there's a good likelyhood this was done. A 3rd gen with neglected EGR and those miles is almost guaranteed to have a blown head gasket.

    Ever read about freeway pileups, the kind that never end, fresh cars keep plowing in? That's us...
     
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    Well said! This is it what it is most likely since I started observing this odd behavior after 2 weeks of the purchase.
     
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    You could baste/siphon out a bit of the coolant in the engine reservoir, look for goop.
     
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    I started and video recorded the engine in the morning today I didn’t visually see the engine shaking enormously but observed it vibrating which I THINK is normal.

    I had a person slowly rev it for me and it didn’t shake vigorously.

    what I feel is it behave bouncy while driving whenever the engine is engaging and disengaging. Could this be spark plugs or bad fuel filter or any other clogged mechanical part such as catalytic converter?
     
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    Since the beginning of this thread I’ve been mentioning the coolant is little less than the “L” level. My apologies I was talking about the coolant reservoir for Synergy system.

    I inspected the level of coolant reservoir for the engine and it’s is to a proper level and I’m pretty sure it has been consistently at that level since I bought this car. It hasn’t dropped at all.

    Also, I video recorded my running engine this morning and I would like to share it here but it’s not allowing me to upload a video.
     
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    Here are some pictures of the coolant reservoir and it’s cap. Looks pinkish from outside with water droplets on the cap and on neck of the reservoir.
     

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    I will try to take out some coolant and inspect for any stickiness very soon.
     
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    I had the same issue, thinking it was motor mounts. It turns out it was clogged EGR passages on the intake manifold. Pretty easy job with the right tools and at that mileage it needs to be cleaned anyways so it's worth a try. I wouldn't rule out spark plugs either, the original ones will last forever but counterfeits are not uncommon and can last as little as 15k from my experience.