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They Don't Work In The Cold...

Discussion in 'EV (Electric Vehicle) Discussion' started by Tideland Prius, Dec 22, 2022.

  1. wjtracy

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    Don't move to Virginia. we essentially have HOA's instead of towns, but I guess some neighborhoods have no town and no HOA.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    I'm guessing one development here has that thinking, but they found a compromise in installing a bank of panels at their entrance.
     
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    LOTS of issues with HOA's. Huge hurdle for electrification.

     
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    I can see how a few houses are made more valuable by looking a certain way that doesn't allow for solar panels- but HOAs aren't protecting those kinds of places. They are more properly protected by historical societies, monuments etc.

    For a given in-fill cluster of Garage Mahals plopped down 10 feet from each other? What's the point? They'd be enabling much more value preservation by allowing the solar panels.
     
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    Yes there are pros and cons to each. I lived in Rural neighborhoods where there was no HOA an had a neighbor with 21 cars in various states of repair parked around his house. Loose cattle and stray dog problems. Another home in a different development had a rented out the house to recovering meth addicts. We had trouble with robbery, mail theft and drug dealing. Moved again and had trouble with drug dealers and abusive shouting neighbors. Then my daughters school went WOKE. We cashed out and moved. a week later there was a double homicide 6 door down on our old street.:(. And our 17 year old checkout girl was murdered in the breakroom at our Walgreens. She bled out screaming during opening hours and help never came. We had ENOUGH. So we CASHED OUT and left and found a tight HOA in a expensive historically SAFE neighborhood in middle America. It is working for us so far. Looking into a Tesla Solar roof and Power Pak. Cold is always a problem with batteries. but if we charge our EV at home the garage I can keep above freezing. But on long trips to the far north. Public EV charging should be a concern. Maybe vendors could build a heated shelters over EV Chargers if consumers request it enough. I agree with you Leadfoot. But part of the reason I chose the neighborhood was the location to my child's school and the $1000 HOA yearly fee. That coupled with property tax of $11,780 a year creates a "financial wall" in this community. There are lots of other less expensive places to live further away. But not as historically safe as Leawood, KS. After my child goes off to college we might move but for now this is home....
     
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    This isn’t a general thing.
    My understanding is, ONE subcontractor for EA had this issue.
    In general, and Tesla is particular, has been bulletproof in terms of cold.
    The vendor screwed up, all the others are doing fine (with regard to cold).
     
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    Back on topic ... & the notion (misnomer), that, "they don't work in the cold". Roughly half a decade ago Bjorn cold soaked his EV to show people who didn't know better - how to overcome ev batteries not wanting to charge in sub zero temps.

    In short ....
    Method #1 is to charge at the end of the day - rather than letting an EV near empty battery cold soak over night.
    Method #2 is to "yo yo" ... accelerate & decelerate hard several times ... get out on the road, take10 minutes to gun it & brake (regenerate) so that the action warms up the pack.
    Why anybody would not charge before the next day is really saying, "how to recover from a dumb mistake". Then again ... there are SOME folks that pull into a hotel in their ICE on empty - even though there may not be a gas station around for god only knows how many miles. It's an exercise in planning.
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    The issue in the OP wasn't with the car. It had been driven for some time, so the battery was warmed up. The chargers themselves weren't working in the cold, which seems to be isolated EA ones made by a specific supplier.
    Why Are Some Of Electrify America's Stations Failing In The Cold? - CleanTechnica