1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Featured Tesla Model 3 now costs as little as $23K in California thanks to tax credits

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Gokhan, Jun 6, 2023.

  1. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,607
    1,848
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,639
    49,359
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Amazing, putting Toyota and others to shame
     
    PriusCamper likes this.
  3. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,639
    49,359
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Did Tesla drop the price again? I just checked yesterday, and it was $42,500. Net 35k.
    Ma gives a measly $1,500. Rebate as we’re not serious about greenhouse gases
     
  4. Isaac Zachary

    Isaac Zachary Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2018
    1,825
    867
    1
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Man! If I lived in California, made enough to get the full credit, and Teslas had AM radios, I'd get one in a heartbeat!
     
    DavidA and Gokhan like this.
  5. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,607
    1,848
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
    It is indeed a shame that a fully loaded Gen 5 Prius Prime is costing almost $50,000—yet, it has substantially worse fuel economy than the much cheaper Gen 4 Prius Prime and only a slightly longer range and it is substantially smaller.

    With BEV prices coming down, perhaps I should keep my blue Gen 4 Prius Prime Limited for three more years or so until better options and better prices are available.
     
    PriusCamper and Isaac Zachary like this.
  6. Isaac Zachary

    Isaac Zachary Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2018
    1,825
    867
    1
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I'd say if what you have works then keep it until you find something better enough to warrant an upgrade. There's no sense in paying to downgrade.
     
    hill, austingreen and Gokhan like this.
  7. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,607
    1,848
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
    The only reason for the upgrade would be TSS 3.0 over TSS 2.0. For me, Gen 4 Prius Prime is a better car than Gen 5 Prius Prime otherwise: better fuel economy, more spacious, more cargo space, more features (head-up display, Homelink, JBL, auto-on lights, etc.), nicer interior (no hidden-behind-the-steering-wheel console that you cannot see while you drive), better, much more visible, sportier, attention-grabbing blue-magnetism color, etc.

    As for the color, you need to own and drive it to appreciate it. It really turns heads. It is too bad that Toyota did not carry it over to Gen 5. But then, that is Toyota—they are good at fixings things that are not broken. With the high gas prices, Gen 4 was selling faster than Gen 5.
     
    #7 Gokhan, Jun 6, 2023
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2023
  8. austingreen

    austingreen Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    13,563
    4,101
    0
    Location:
    Austin, TX, USA
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    N/A
    you know you can buy a stand alone am radio.
     
    hill likes this.
  9. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,639
    49,359
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    and, they were available to buy
     
    priusmouse likes this.
  10. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,607
    1,848
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
  11. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,639
    49,359
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    my local store, in stock:

    5YJ3244_3806f25017526f384890cebbfe108638

    $38,770. minus $9,000. in tax credits = $29,770. +tax, etc.

    prime SE = $33,500. +tax, etc. when you can get one, and if you can get msrp
     
  12. PriusCamper

    PriusCamper Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2012
    11,055
    4,498
    0
    Location:
    Pacific Northwest, USA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I don't know about that, most Bostonians I've met have plenty of hot air and they take all their whining and complaining very seriously.
     
  13. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,607
    1,848
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
    I should say that a lot of this is fake news, except for the full $7,500 federal nonrefundable tax credit.

    There is no separate $7,500 tax rebate in California. It is only a $2,000 CVRP rebate. (It is $1,000 for Prius Prime.)

    There is no $2,410 Southern California rebate. It is estimated gas savings over a gas guzzler shown on Tesla website.

    So, the number is off by $7,910. It is fake news big time!

    On top of that, unless you go with white, you have to pay around $1,500 for the paint job. Enhanced autopilot costs $6,000. Full self-driving costs $15,000.

    It is not to mention that they are dropping the prices to liquidate existing stock for the Model 3 resign.

    No, thanks but no Tesla Model 3 for me in these conditions!
     
  14. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,639
    49,359
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    wow.

    still, my above post is correct, and that's for blue or red
     
  15. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,607
    1,848
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
    Is that a used one? Note that you don't get many of the tax credits and rebates for used cars. When I configure the same car, the price higher by about $2,500.
     
  16. Salamander_King

    Salamander_King Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2015
    10,970
    8,853
    0
    Location:
    New England
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Be careful. Read the small print. Screenshot_20230606-202837.jpeg
     
    #16 Salamander_King, Jun 6, 2023
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2023
    Gokhan likes this.
  17. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,607
    1,848
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
    On top of that, it seems to be a used one, so no tax credits and state rebates for @bisco. ;)
     
  18. Gokhan

    Gokhan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    4,607
    1,848
    0
    Location:
    Paramount CA
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
    So, are you trading in your Ford Escape PHEV to get the $7,500 federal tax credit and state rebate?
     
    Salamander_King likes this.
  19. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,639
    49,359
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    the link says 'new'
     
    iplug and Trollbait like this.
  20. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,639
    49,359
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    did i miss something?

    is ma really $3,500. rebate now?