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A few EGR cooler/intake tips

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by pandion, Jul 7, 2023.

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    I had a P0117 code and an intermittent overheat light, so while I had the cooling system drained, I decided to hit the EGR cooler, intake manifold clean, and oil catch can add. I watched the Nuts about Bolts videos, which were very helpful, but here are some of my discoveries and tips from doing the job. I also replaced the ECT sensor and water pump rotor to address the code, and the thermostat because I was there. Also spark plugs while the cowl was off. IMG_9108.JPG

    My 2014 Prius is at 190k miles, and while the cooler was definitely dirty, it was not thoroughly clogged. I could see light reflecting through it, but I could not see light directly through it.

    1). The Cleaner. I initially thought I would use oven cleaner, as I have used that successfully in the past on cleaning engine blocks and pistons. The problem for this use was that oven cleaner foams and didn't soak deep down the small passages. Some improvement, but not much after an hour plus of messing with it. In googling that evening, I ran across a Motor Trend article on EGR cleaning solutions for diesel EGR coolers. A soak and rinse shootout. Two hour soak, no wires, no ultrasonics. Their winner was Purple Power, which I didn't find locally, so I got a 5g container of Zep Industrial Purple Degreaser at Lowe's. I cut the very top off a 1g empty coolant jug, dropped the cooler in vertically, and filled the jug until the cleaner covered the cooler. I dunked it a few times to make sure cleaner was working its way through the passages, took my wife to lunch, the Indiana Jones matinee (recommended!), and fixed my mother's wifi; a six-hour soak. Rinsed with hot water, compressed air, and hot water again. It looked fully clean. I gave it another two-hour soak while I was doing other work, and the rinse gave no additional crud. No wires after the oven cleaner attempt, and no ultrasonics. The picture is the end result. All passages were this clear. Soaking the intake manifold in a 3:1 Zep cleaner:water ratio in a small trash can gave the same good results on the small EGR passages, though I did follow up with long pipe cleaners in both the small passages and the side EGR pipe port. If I was to do this again, I'd pull the cooler and intake at the end of the day, toss them both into a suitably sized container together, and let it all soak overnight in full strength cleaner. Next morning, rinse, reinstall. Highly, highly recommend the Zep purple cleaner, though I suspect the other purple cleaners will also work.

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    2) The "Difficult Nut" and others. To pull the difficult nut underneath the cooler, I used a deep 12mm with a 2-1/2in extension on a flex-head ratchet. Broke it loose, put a magnet-on-a-stick on the end of the stud, and spun the nut off with my left hand behind/underneath the bracket. Installation was reverse; put the nut on the magnet, maneuver it onto the end of the stud, spin it on, tighten. I pulled the long stud in the front and the two rear pipe studs with an e-torx socket. I left the "difficult stud" in place. To prevent the pipe gasket falling on removal, I clamped the pipe and cooler flanges with a small vise grip. For installations, when working blind, I often slip a long length of fine string or monofilament line through the piece I'm installing in case I lose my grip on it. That's how I secured the rear pipe gasket to prevent it from dropping into the abyss. I often do the same with nuts, bolts, and even tools, but here, for the rear studs and nuts, I transported them into place with the magnet stick until the threads were started.

    3) Oil grunge. I had some pooled oil in the intake, and plenty of caked oily carbon in the head intake ports. Got maybe 70% of the port crud out with brake cleaner soaked paper towels, but I was afraid to get too aggressive with it. I used a 3" length of 3/4" fuel line on the intake PCV port, stepped down to 1/2" fuel line to the catch can with a 3/4-1/2" barb connector sourced from Lowe's (Proline Series 3/4-in x 1/2-in Barbed Splicer Adapter Fitting, Item #877084, $4.88), with 3/8" fuel line for the PCV valve to catch can run.

    I hope this helps!
     
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    great tips and pics, and thank you!
     
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    I had great success cleaning the cooler with purple power and hot water then blast with a pressure washer. Glad that worked out for you! Good thing you caught the water pump before it was too late. Where did you buy a replacement rotor?
     
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    I was all ready to use my pressure washer, but with the soak and compressed air, it just wasn't necessary. I wasn't fully clogged, however, so that may have made a difference. I was really impressed with the Zep purple. Now I don't know what to do with these four cans of oven cleaner!

    I got the rotor from Amazon. I posted another thread on my p0117/overheat woes.
     
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    The Zep purple degreaser was OK for use on the aluminum inserts in the intake manifold?



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    I think they're actually steel inserts, with a coating. One time I used Oxi-Clean on the intake (a mildly caustic laundry cleaner), and it definetely reacted adversly with those inserts.

    Also, rather than "throwing components in a suitable sized container": it's really just the EGR cooler that needs this extra effort, and the dead-simple way to get it's interior full of a cleaner is to put a cork in one end. Here's the opening specs:

    Intake opening diameter (at exhaust): 20.9 mm
    exit opening diameter (at EGR valve): 25.7 mm

    My 2 cents on the "difficult nut":

    2013 Prius Gen 3: Fuel injectors or EGR? | Page 2 | PriusChat

    With the Oil Catch Can install, what a lot do is cut the original PCV hose at middle, push on 3/8" barb splicers (or Plex), and push 3/8" ID fuel line SAE30R7 on, run to your OCC.
     
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    I didn't note any corrosion issues on the inserts, but neither did I check them with a magnet.
     
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    Yeah, I looked for various plugs, covers, and other means of just filling the cooler interior, but one-gallon jugs was what was in ready supply in my garage.
     
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    i found ammonia to be a more effective and affordable solution for any egr related cleaning.just soak and rinse, done! (fixed the spelling}
     
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    Regular "household" ammonia?

    Hmm, have to try it on my greasy, carbonized gas grill cooking grates (stainless steel), which seem to be very similar in appearance to what's inside the EGR cooler.

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    Yes That is what I came up with.