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Featured Document Shows Nio ES6 With 577-Mile Range, 150-kWh Solid-State Battery

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by pakitt, Jul 10, 2023.

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    Wait, we have a Nio dealership here in the USA? Where?
     
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    i'll be interested after ten years of mass production
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Hoping my wife and I can figure out a way out of our Mercedes EQB250+ lease when the VinFast VF9 7 seater is released.

    (Yes this is deduced from experience with the EQB these past few months, my long term past a Mercedes being my first car way back in ‘92, and accumulating 4 MB gassers and 1 diesel (my first car,) before adding the EQB).
     
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    Maybe in 2027.
    "It also trumpeted a "technological breakthrough" that addresses durability problems in solid-state batteries and said it is developing means to mass produce those batteries, targeting commercialisation over 2027-2028."
    Toyota unveils sweeping plans for new battery tech, EV innovation | Reuters
    Or maybe that's when it appears in a phone.
     
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    i won't bet the farm
     
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    The trouble will be classic cost efficiency
     
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    Right. I expect improvements and new technologies, but not miracles
     
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    The Nio is semi solid, not all solid state. We have had solid state batteries in cars for awhile - the problem with those gen I (or gen 0) batteries is they needed to be hot to work properly.

    https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098904_solid-state-batteries-already-powering-electric-cars-bluecars-in-fact

    I am expecting the nio battery pack to be very expensive, but it gives them a lot of R&D information. Toyota will be getting R&D information from the solid state they will soon put in some hybrids (I'm expecting small production).

    I am thinking the price drop for solid state that can operate well at automotive temperatures won't happen for a decade. Its a good thing Nio and Toyota will be building vehicles with current technology until that happens.
     
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    good
    Lighter
    Energy density
    Charge/discharge rate
    Less fire prone

    Bad
    Cost
    ???? Reliability
     
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    Wake Me Up When there's at least one service center in every state.
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    I’m not interested in Chinese cars. I hope the government sticks to their guns and requires more U.S. manufacturing
     
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