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How are our Northeast folks doing?

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by bwilson4web, Jul 16, 2023.

  1. bwilson4web

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    The evening news reports severe rain and flash floods in the Northeast. How are folks doing?

    Bob Wilson
     
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    it is a very strange weather pattern. some folks have been wiped out, we have had hardly any rain. still coming through the night though, so we're not out of the woods yet.
    central ma had a tornado, and a farm in western ma was completely obliterated with 6' of water.
    liz and burnie are working on an emergency declaration for the affected areas.
     
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    Here in southern CT there has been periodic heavy rain and heavy wins. but since my home is on high ground (I consider topography at the time of purchase), no flooding issues.

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    High heat increases evaporation... And all that moisture in the atmosphere... As they say, what goes up, must come down!

    Last year Pakistan had 1/3rd of their countries 300 sq. miles flooded over, which lead to 2.1 million homeless, 1800 people dead and 13K people injured.

    And because the oil industry are liars and thieves who have never followed through on a single promise to reduce emissions, but keep boosting production it's gonna get way worse.

    Eventually we'll have no choice but to wake up and nationalize the oil industry in order to wind them down so the middle east's number one export can finally be sand again. But right now we live in the land of pretend where we let the oil company's fake promises lead the charge to our planet boiling over as quickly as possible.
     
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    Those numbers are a bit off. Pakistan is over 300,000 square miles. And while a government minister did actually say "one-third" of it was underwater, other sources gave smaller figures: a UN agency estimated about 9%, USAID estimated about 10%, the BBC reported 10-12%.

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    As for the Northeast U.S. storms, we were among those afflicted by recent weather problems disrupting travel through those airports, but were comparatively lucky. Outbound before the holiday, while we watched news reports of horrid airport delay and cancellation problems for a whole week, our tour guide traveling early was caught in the trapped travel mobs and got to spend about 50 extra hours mostly in Newark airport, for lack of available nearby hotel rooms. Many eastern airports were hit, but United at Newark seemed to behit the hardest, suffering more operations problems than just weather. By sheer luck we traveled on a day with minimal delays and few of the cancellations of the previous week. Our co-travelers going a couple days later also all arrived on their planned day, not getting caught by the severe cancellations of adjacent days.

    Our planned return Thursday was not so lucky. We got in to Newark on time, but the home leg delays kept growing until our flight was finally cancelled more than 6 hours later ... after being recalled from the taxiway for insufficient fuel margin for the longer storm-avoiding route assigned by air traffic control. (FlightAware later showed that three other similar flights home all departed successfully, indicting that their crews did load enough fuel margin for this foreseeable weather re-route that required 30-120 extra minutes of flight time.) After eventually getting rebooked for Friday, through a connecting airport because all spare seats on direct flights had already been snapped up by other displaced travelers, we did get assigned a hotel room about midnight, showing that things that night weren't as bad as many other recent nights.

    Fortunately we did get home Friday night, 26 hours late, with no more new drama than just a brief OJ-like run between connecting flights. FlightAware's Misery Map suggests that travelers still stuck in Newark Friday night, had vastly worse experiences yesterday as more severe weather returned. And still worse today with ground stops across most of the region.
     
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