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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by NickMarc, Jul 13, 2023.

  1. NickMarc

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    What can be the reason for all three to show up? Checked inverter pump - it works fine both IG-ON and off (service mode) there is a swirl in a tank. 12 V battery is fine.

    Went to Auto Zone to check with their tool:

    P0420 - catalyst system efficiency below threshold (Bank 1)
    C0200 - right front wheel speed sensor signal malfunction
    C0205 - left front wheel speed sensor signal malfunction
    C1259 - ECM Communication Malfunction (TRC signal / Idle up signal) whatever that means...
    C1310 - Malfunction in HV system

    Car drives as usual even with all three lights on.
     
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    It looks like something lost communication maybe. Maybe you're 12 volt is not up to snuff that's the first thing you need to check It's telling you you have some wheel sensors that are not reporting to the ECM but that could be because the ECM can't be reported to because of low voltage etc so make sure that is truly up to snuff first or you can be in for a wild goose chase for sure It do make a difference. The PO420 you probably never get cleared up that's your catalyst below threshold It tests itself in the car and it's probably just old and wore out if it was 02 sensors I think you get different codes for those etc The rest of them should be pretty easy to deal with but it really does look like something just stopped talking to something else.
     
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    You might need tech stream for more detailed diagnostics
     
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    You can pay attention to what the AutoZone scanner says for the P0 and C0 codes, because those are standardized across cars.

    Don't even try to make sense of what a generic scanner tells you a C1 code means; it'll nearly always be bogus. C1 codes are manufacturer-specified and you just have to look them up in a Prius manual to get good info. Everything the AutoZone scanner said about C1259 is bogus for a Prius.

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    The best reason for looking codes up in the repair manual for the car is that you don't just find what the code means, you find the steps for troubleshooting why you have it and then what to do about it.

    Toyota Service Information and Where To Find It | PriusChat

    P0420 means the car's self test of the catalytic converter's effectiveness isn't passing anymore, probably because the converter is at end of life. The manual will suggest a couple things to check just to rule out that the test failed for some other reason ... but the test exists to find out when the cat converter is done for, so that's usually what it means when it fails. This code is from the engine control module, and why the check engine light is on.

    The C0200 and C0205 are issues with two different wheel speed sensors for the braking system. The manual will also suggest some checks for the wiring between those sensors and the brake ECU; maybe there is some wiring damage at a common point, rather than two sensors both bad. Worth checking, anyway.

    Those codes are from the brake ECU, and so are the Prius-specific codes C1259 and C1310, so all those codes account for the VSC and ((!)) lights. The C1259 and C1310 both simply tell you that the brake ECU has been notified of trouble codes in the hybrid-vehicle control ECU. The HV control ECU codes are why the red triangle is on.

    The AutoZone scanner did not report what the HV control ECU codes are. Lots of generic scanners are unable to read codes from every part of the car. It will be necessary to use a better scan tool (or go somewhere that has a better scan tool) to find out what the HV control ECU codes are. Here is a thread that reviews some different options and reports which ones can show codes from all ECUs in the car:

    Gen2 OBD2 app review | PriusChat

    So this car just has a few different problems needing attention.
     
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    Thank you guys for these posts. It seems like I need a better diagnostic tool at hand to get to the core of the problem(s). I will let you know what I found once I am better equipped with tools and knowledge.
     
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    So today the Prius won't start at all. Simply dead. Is it 12V battery's fault?
     
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    Possibility it is the 12v battery. Do you have a voltmeter to check the voltage of the battery?

    Does the car go into READY mode?

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    What happens if you turn on the headlights Do they look nice and bright like normal turn signals work any of that nonsense then I would say if not 12 volt battery is probably dead for the moment.
     
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    I changed the battery in the key fob - just in case. I put it in a slot and managed to start it up. Strange as it seems. After a short distance again all the above lights plus tire pressure (it is a new one) went on and of course a red triangle. I was able to drive it home and turn off. I am waiting for a friend to come and see maybe he has a voltmeter.
     
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    One more thing I could open a car using a key button but a comfort opening (when I touched a handle) did not open the door.
     
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    when mine did that, it was the 12v
     
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    So 12V is OK. I replaced some cells in my HV battery and all the lights went off. I checked in Autozone no more errors besides the ones with speed sensors. Even the catalytic converter went off. One new thing is a tire pressure light on but that should be TPMS battery or leaking tire. Just pumped it up today to check what happens.
     
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    That is good news about the HV battery. I think that some of the lights and trouble codes will return after you drive the car for a while.

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    If you want to be able to "play" with your Prius (DIY repairs), you might consider getting your own capable scantool. Most generic scanners (including ones used at autoparts stores) simply cannot communicate with most systems on hybrids like a Prius.

    Here's a thread that reviews several apps and devices.

    https://priuschat.com/index.php?posts/3290690

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