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Musk and Ramaswarmy

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by bwilson4web, Aug 26, 2023.

  1. bwilson4web

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    i'm sure musk would be happy to advise. maybe it would help keeping the ev credits flowing
     
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    Musk would probably suggest that EV subsidies inhibits real innovation.

    History, loans were give to multiple companies but only Tesla paid it off early with interest to get out from the other loan conditions.

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    understandable, but does the current credit burden automakers?

    if you don't incentivize demand, you have to incentivize supply, or disincentivize alternative fuels
     
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    Emission credits work as a form of carbon tax. So no problem here. But EV subsidies can reward poor manufacturing and slovenly design.

    EVs need a clean-sheet design but many are just warmed over ICE cars and legacy engineering and manufacturing.

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    He is definitely not a fan of subsidies. However, while the fossil fuel subsidies exist he will strongly suggest EV subsidies remain.
     
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    He wasn't in the room. I suspect the traditional automakers wanted them.

    Tesla makes a bunch selling emission credits. Even more from lower costs through better engineering design and manufacturing.

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