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2010 Prius Stuck in parking, P3004 P0A0D error codes

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by 1000uf, Aug 20, 2023.

  1. 1000uf

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    I bought an used 2010 Prius which has always been serviced Toyota dealership and it had an extended third-party warranty. Few months after I have been using it, one day it was stuck in parking with all the usual warning lights indicating a bad hybrid battery pack along with the dreaded "Check hybrid system" error. I already had another 2010 Prius prior to this which I had see this error but without the problem of not able to shift gears. So I reset the safety service plug and its on-board computer and still cannot clear all the errors, and the car was stuck in parking.

    I ended up towing it to the nearest Toyota dealership, I suspected based on the troubleshooting I had done, even if the battery pack was going bad it should still allow me to at least drive the car with lower fuel economy, so it is probably the inverter. They diagnosed with a short in the battery pack which did not allow any current going to the inverter. Before they can troubleshoot the inverter they would need a new battery pack. I balked at it as it cost a lot of money, but in the end I got another one from a company which regenerate high quality Toyota original cells with a good warranty. The warranty policy covers about half of the cost at this point.

    After the battery pack arrived, P3004 seems to have disappeared but P0A0D error still remained. Toyota technician now confirmed that it was the inverter. A new one cost nearly like a new battery pack, so I ended up finding a used one from a newer model (2012-2018 Auris) that has a different part number (G9200-47190) which is also compatible and better. This solved the problem and the car works.

    I ended up making a video about this to help others who have this particular problem:

     
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    Yes that sounds pretty much on par You had an older car that did not have the inverter campaign done in America or wherever but the inverter you purchased from the IRS has the updated internals that would be installed in your old inverter under warranty up to a certain point so that solve that problem here in the United States that inverter at LKQ would cost me like 50 bucks or something along those lines and of course the battery however you dealt with that the third party replacement and there you go so that's pretty much what you'd expect to have go on in this case but like you said you had to have a functioning hybrid battery without a short in it to also determine that you were having a problem with the inverter charging the pack or the 12 volt or whatever was going on with the inverter almost near impossible to diagnose unless somebody has an inverter test rig set up somewhere in some country. It's just easier to swap it out with the updated model that has all of the features and parts that your old one needed. But good on you buddy it's fixed and you're rolling.
     
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    So when did the premium third party extended warranty stepped in and picked up the tab?
     
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    I actually thought that it would cover the entire cost, but reading the fine print and after the customer service's clarification I understood that they only cover partial cost of replacing the part to restore the car to the condition to which it was sold. Since it was not a new car, the reasoning is that they cannot cover the cost of a new part. Initially for the battery pack they were going to give just 500 euros, but after some negotiation I got that bumped to 700 euros. Then for the inverter, they initially wanted to give 750, but I got it bumped to 1000 euros. This was based on the price I was quoted by Toyota for a new inverter. They just need the official diagnostic report and quote and will provide an amount which they can pay. Then few days later the money arrives in my bank account, and I can use it buy from any source. The dealership was really good, they kept the car for more than a month while I was finding and waiting for the parts and only charged me three hours of labor totally about 250 euros after tax. So I paid out of pocket about 500 euros overall.
     
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    Gad, it's amazing what a "technician" can "confirm" to be a problem, just by flat-out ignoring what the trouble code means.

    P0A0D is the code for the safety interlock circuit that runs from the power management control ECU, through some safety contacts on the inverter covers, back to the rear of the car, through the handle contacts of the battery service plug, and to body ground. It keeps you from driving the car if any of that circuit isn't complete, because its one and only job is to keep you from driving the car if that circuit isn't complete.

    99 and 44/100ths % of the time, when somebody has a P0A0D, it's going to mean that battery service plug handle wasn't thunked fully back into place. Sounds like you checked that, so there was just an open circuit needing to be found elsewhere in that (very simple) circuit.

    As often happens in this kind of situation, when somebody goes and makes a much bigger expensive repair that's not even implicated by the trouble code, it 'fixes' the problem, because in the course of replacing the whole ding-binged inverter, some safety interlock connections necessarily got reconnected, thereby fixing the original problem in passing.
     
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    In fact, I really did not want to replace the battery pack unless it was absolutely necessary. The battery pack, even if it was becoming poor and in need of replacement can still be used for some time as long as there are no other issues. I tried to do the reset by unplugging the service plug and it did not do the job. In the end, if it were not for the warranty program covering majority of the cost and the fact I could find regenerated and used parts, it would have been an unacceptably high price to pay for the replacement of parts using Toyota parts. If they had a spare battery pack to use for troubleshooting (which they didn't) they could have found that the inverter needed more replacement than the battery pack.

     
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    If the only problem being reported was in the interlock circuit, most likely the only thing that really needed to happen was somebody with an ohmmeter finding and fixing the problem in the interlock circuit.
     
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    The technicians removed the battery pack and traced the circuit to the inverter, and even removed the inverter too. I was there several times to see this myself. There was unfortunately a short within the battery pack which didn't allow the power to arrive at the inverter, which is why it had to be replaced first.
     
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    Quite literally, that circuit involves a single pin on the power management control ECU, connected to a single wire that does travel to the inverter, only so it can go up to some interlock contacts under the inverter covers, and back out as a single wire that goes to the back of the car, through the interlock contacts in the orange battery handle, and then to body ground.

    The technicians didn't have to trace the circuit, they have access (all paid for!) to the wiring diagram that shows them exactly where it goes.

    Even if the location of the open in that circuit turns out physically within the inverter, the likelihood of the inverter having to be replaced to fix it hovers somewhere right in the vicinity of zero.
     
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    I really appreciate this detailed information as I had no idea about this. If I had access to the diagram it is likely I can insist on where to check (at the risk of telling them how to do their work, it's worth it). I too, thought it could be a less expensive repair. Though lesson learned, next time I will be armed with this info and insist on it.
     
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    I wonder how much it would cost to just get an inverter from a pick n pull. Everytime i go i see them still on, only the engine and cat mostly missing.
     
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    I got an used one for less than 500 dollars. I have seen them from 200-600 on various classified web sites.