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Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by cleverchimp, Sep 2, 2023.

  1. cleverchimp

    cleverchimp Junior Member

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    Time to replace my 2018 Prime OEM tires after 43K miles. Looking for recomendation, should I up a size from 195/65-15 to 205/65-15? I noticed the OEM nano hydroplate and not that stable on the freeway. That's why I'm considering wider tires for added stability but Costco and Sams wont even install any other size beside the original OEM recomendation.

    Pirelli P4 for $470-ish or Michelin T+H for $600-ish? Never have experience with Pirelli but the price is tempting. Anyone have a recomendation on a black plastic cover for OEM rims? Getting tired of the silver/black look on the OEM one.
     
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    Don’t. FWIW, a lot of tire places won’t install anything other than spec’d. It’ll throw off the odometer (obviously), change suspension geometry, increase wind resistance. All just incrementally, but really no upside.
    Can you rephrase that? Hang on, think I understand, getting fluent in typo.
     
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    A wider tire generally has more of a tendency to hydroplane than a narrow one not less.

    That freeway feel might be due to wrong tire pressures or alignment being off or something loose
    in the steering or suspension.

    Don't fight with the tire suppliers on this one.
    It isn't worth the hassle.
     
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    Optional tire sizes on our Prius Primes from Tirerack

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    ^ These all stick pretty close to stock OD?
     
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    You bought a prius because you wanted to maximize your mileage and reduce your emissions footprint. Any size other than stock is going to move you away from that. Stick with the size you have from the factory.

    Costco shouldn't have an issue with tires other than stock as long as it fits the wheel. My tacoma had stock 265/70/16s. I had costco install 255/85/16s. They had no issues at all.
     
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    Thanks, I think I'll stick with the standard size. I managed to see other retailers that sells Defender T+H for almost the same price as Pirelli, will try if Americas Tire can price match that.
     
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    Might be alignment, as I dont think the dealer alin the wheel when I first bought it. It tends to go to the right side more.
     
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    Good info. I was thinking to change the rims when I bought the car to 17" but since I might trade it fro RAV4 Prime in 2-3 years, so I'm going to stick with the stock rims and probably replace OEM covers with all black (if I can find one that fits Prime).
     
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    True, I asked my COSTCO yesterday and they just wont do it. Maybe it's just new policy or it just my local COSTCO thing.
     
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    If I was buying 15" all-seasons the Defender would be a top contender. My son just got some for a Mazda CX-5, happy with them. There's a new iteration I think, just came out this year. One downside, it's been mentioned here a few times you'll take a mpg at the outset, but I think it rebounds some.
     
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    I've been happy with my CostCo Michelin X-Tours (aka Defenders). Pic from Consumer Reports.

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    Curious, have you got similar for snow tires?
     
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    "not that stable on the freeway"
    This isn't about tire size. This is something unique to your car. It could be tire pressure or something bent or something else that needs fixing. Get it checked. For tires in L.A., those Michelin Defenders are a very good choice. (My next Prime tires will be the new Bridgestone Driveguard Plus run-flat tires, but they aren't yet out in the Prime size. More comfort and better performance from the newest run-flat tires said to be good for 50 miles at 50 mph without air--then they're junk.)
     
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    Now, we need such a rating chart for all-weather tires, the all-season tires with the winter snow service symbol on the side, the 3 peak mountain snowflake symbol for passing the on-snow traction test.
     
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    Tyrereviews on Youtube does a lot of A vs B testing for tires.
    Any new tire will do better than worn ones for hydroplane resistance. With that said, SOME tires excel more than others, even when comparing new vs new.


    Continental DWS06+ excel in every aspect for wet performance, but it will for sure take a MPG hit compared to LRR tires as speced from the factory.

    **Purely hypothetical (since continental does not make the dws06+ in 185 width**: If factory is 195-width, you can probably go with 185 width summer-focused tires and still get comparable MPG vs stock, but gain the extra confidence in non-LRR tires and uprated wet performance.
     
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    Good to know that your son like the tires. Yeah, I wouldnt worry too much with MPG hit since I mostly use EV only and charge it daily.

    Yeah, seems to be this is the tire to go. No one commented about Pirelli yet...I managed to get the $40 discount on tthe Michelin.It's not much but at least something.

    Will definetely have them check when they change the tires. That is one expensive tires lol. Hopefully run flat tires goes mainstream in 2024.

    Good video, thanks! I have bad experience with Continental, I have it once on my Accord and have to replace them around 40K.
     
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    Any new tire will give lower mpg or miles per charge. The deeper rubber tread has more squirm which is energy wasted as heat. That's just the way it works. Low rolling resistance tires, for which there is no industry standard spec, has some benefit and some drawbacks. One way they get lower rolling resistance is with rubber compounds with more bounce-back. As the tire rolls the part on the bottom gets squished, then returns to shape as the rolling continues. If the return to shape is somewhat bouncy you get part of that energy back. If the return to shape is slower and the energy to compress the rubber mainly turns to heat...you lost that energy. Think of dropping a new tennis ball and an old tired tennis ball from the same height. The new one will bounce back higher--less hysteresis; less loss. The drawback might be that the LRR tires won't have the optimal tread compound for longest tread life or best traction. There's no perfect tire.
     
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    PDF compilation of @Marine Ray's two CR tire rating pages attached:
     

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