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  1. bisco

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    neither does has family
     
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    File this under "News tantrum":


    Apparently any change in vaccine delivery is a "news" crisis ... posts the skeptical guy vaccinated three days ago. Regardless, I found this CDC report page showing state-by-state numbers useful:
    Protect yourself from COVID-19, Flu, and RSV

    Bob Wilson
     
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  3. bisco

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    probably the numbers of people showing up for appointments readily taken by the websites, only to be told on arrival that they don't have the vaccine.
    plus all the pharmacist cotroversy at cvs and walgreens

    then there's hits like this:

    covid-vaccine.html :rolleyes:

    for some reason, costco isn't doing covid shots here:

    adult-immunization-program.html
     
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    So is anybody running out to get the "new" variant booster shot?

    Because there's a law, that says pharma has to say possible side effects of medication, we don't see any commercials for the covid jab.

    Else they would have to mention "rare but serious" side effects of Anaphylaxis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), Myocarditis and Pericarditis, Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), just to list a few.

    No thanks from this guy....
     
  5. bisco

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    8 people on page one of this thread. we get covid commercials here. most people i know are trying to get one. i'll be scheduling for mid october, availability isn't up to snuff yet.
    if you think vaccine side effects are bad, you should read up on covid side effects :eek:
     
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    Well I've had the two initial Pfizer jabs but then caught covid last summer. It was pretty bad but about the same as the swine flu I caught about 10-years ago. I did lose almost all sense of taste and smell but, after about a month, most of it had come back except for the "hot" sense of taste. I could eat very spicy food and it would either have no flavor or taste like ketchup. That seemed to take almost 3 months to get back. I'm comfortable skipping any more jabs since they don't seem to make all that much different...you can still catch the stupid virus.
    I work with a guy who got his booster a few months ago and it seems to have messed with his heart...is getting scheduled to have a valve repaired. (He had zero heart issues before and did get his yearly physicals.) Sure, may be coincidental but may not be, as well. His doctor does blame in on the jab as they are seeing more heart-related problems with folks who get the jab.
     
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    Getting covid, shingles, and rsv shots all at once, now at Safeway next Monday, instead of Cvs. Safeway a little closer and bigger parking lot. Appointments pretty booked up. Last time I went to Safeway there was no one there the whole time. Pharmacist said all the appt slots fill up but very few arrive.
    Gee who would want to stop vaccinations by filling all the appt slots?
     
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    rfk jr?

    rhonda santis?
     
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    Many of us are older and do see a Cardiologist- I see one every 6 months. The Cardiologist, Electrophysiologist and my Family Practitioner all universally recommend the Covid Booster Shot, Flu Shot and RSV vaccine as well as Shingles, Pneumonia and Hepatitis vaccine.

    They are the ones who will have to deal with me if and when I get sick, they have kept me healthy and cared for me when I badly needed medical help.

    They aren't ghost or fictional and have no agenda other than the care of small town patients- I am going with their advice as I can actually look them in the face, talk to them and know how much they care about their patients by the way they treat us - will completely skip advice from the internet.
     
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    That’s not the way it works. The virus isn’t prohibited from entering your body by the vaccine. You still can get Covid.
    When the guys surgeon reports officially it was the vaccine that caused his heart problems and why, it would be a stronger story.
     
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    I got the printed pages with the shot. You know, not everything has to be learned from the TV tube. But since you asked:

    CONTRAINDICATIONS
    Known history of a severe allergic reaction (e.g., anaphylaxis) to any component of COMIRNATY. (4)

    WARNINGS AND PRECAUTIONS
    Postmarketing data with authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines demonstrate increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly within the first week following vaccination. For COMIRNATY, the observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age. (5.2)

    Syncope (fainting) may occur in association with administration of injectable vaccines, including COMIRNATY. Procedures should be in place to avoid injury from fainting. (5.3)

    ADVERSE REACTIONS
    The most commonly reported adverse reactions (≥10%) after a dose of COMIRNATY were pain at the injection site (up to 90.5%), fatigue (up to 77.5%), headache (up to 75.5%), chills (up to 49.2%), muscle pain (up to 45.5%), joint pain (up to 27.5%), fever (up to 24.3%), injection site swelling (up to 11.8%), and injection site redness (up to 10.4%). (6.1)

    To report SUSPECTED ADVERSE REACTIONS, contact Pfizer Inc. at 1-800-438-1985 or VAERS at 1-800-822-7967 or http://vaers.hhs.gov.
    See 17 for PATIENT COUNSELING INFORMATION and FDA-approved patient labeling.

    I'll let you know if I die.

    I had three shots and my former wife, none. We both came down with mild symptoms the same week. A home kit confirmed COVID her symptoms three days in and me the next day at a clinic. Tylenol handled pretty much any symptoms although she also took a decongestant.

    Vaccinations are not always 100% effective but even those partially effective reduce the severity. But don't let me dissuade you. Credible medical studies need 'placebo' subjects. Better when in a double-blind study, volunteer placebos works for me.

    Bob Wilson

     
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    Either you believe in modern medicine or you don't.
    I do. And will be in line.......but am not in a panic.

    Most of those who are throwing around this BS about not taking the vaccine weren't making
    the decisions when Small Pox and Polio were going around. If they had been, they likely
    would not still be alive to spread their stupidity now.

    Maybe that would have been a good thing.
     
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    Just as I was coming down with it a year and a half ago, before peaking, I received the news that a high profile anti-vaxer over here, a decade younger and healthier than me and regionally famous to responding to the Governor's state employee vaccine mandate by very publicly declaring 'take this job and shove it', had just died of it. To the embarrassment of some political campaigns who had just taken him in as a celebrity spokesperson.

    With 3 jabs prior to catching it, both my and my older spouse's cases were considerably less bad than you describe for yours. After seeing the comparative mortality rates for the vaxxed vs unvaxxed, I'm very much a believer, and will get this year's version as soon as it is available from my network.

    Having had a quite bad unknown illness just weeks before the first retrospectively confirmed U.S. covid fatality (no testing then), and an even worse case late last year (even went to Urgent Care to head off any pneumonia, tests determined it was not covid and not flu, there was no RSV test on hand), I'm very much looking for the RSV vaxx too, when my network makes it available. The "opportunity cost" of those illnesses was high enough that I'll take even minor risk reductions.
     
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    Schedule reworked. I did covid, flu & shingles yesterday. Awake at 2am with a very sore arm. And a less sore one too.
     
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    I have a daughter who is an educator, three grandchildren, and I go to church - so my immune system is already getting regularly exercised. :p
    I usually get the flu shot every year and I'm up to scratch on all of my other vaccinations sans Covid shot since I've probably already had it this year.
    I'll do the coin toss later, but from the symptoms described above seem worse than the 4-5 times I actually got the 'vid - although to be fair none of my COVID shots bothered me in the least.
    My pneumonia and shingles shots (same day, same arm) produced very robust symptoms - that WERE worse than any of my covid bouts.

    Fun Fact:
    I checked with some kids who are still inside the wire.
    I cannot vouch for the otha branches, but the USN discontinued adverse administrative actions associated with refusing the COVID-19 vaccine but will STILL take such actions including ADSEP for service members refusing the flu or other mandated vaccinations.

    Fun times.....
     
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    For perspective.
    • red, peeling or blistering skin
    • rash
    • hives
    • itching
    • swelling of the face, throat, tongue, lips, eyes, hands, feet, ankles, or lower legs
    • hoarseness
    • difficulty breathing or swallowing
    Those are the potential side effects from taking acetaminophen; Tylenol.
    Acetaminophen: MedlinePlus Drug Information
     
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    That is an excellent list of allergy symptoms. The last one, Prinivil, sent me to the ER twice and led to a new diagnosis of AFIB.
    My understanding is alcohol tends to increase the likelihood of these symptoms:
    Acetaminophen: MedlinePlus Drug Information

    To be sure that you take acetaminophen safely, you should
    • not take more than one product that contains acetaminophen at a time. Read the labels of all the prescription and nonprescription medications you are taking to see if they contain acetaminophen. Be aware that abbreviations such as APAP, AC, Acetaminophen, Acetaminoph, Acetaminop, Acetamin, or Acetam. may be written on the label in place of the word acetaminophen. Ask your doctor or pharmacist if you don't know if a medication that you are taking contains acetaminophen.
    • take acetaminophen exactly as directed on the prescription or package label. Do not take more acetaminophen or take it more often than directed, even if you still have fever or pain. Ask your doctor or pharmacist if you do not know how much medication to take or how often to take your medication. Call your doctor if you still have pain or fever after taking your medication as directed.
    • be aware that you should not take more than 4000 mg of acetaminophen per day. If you need to take more than one product that contains acetaminophen, it may be difficult for you to calculate the total amount of acetaminophen you are taking. Ask your doctor or pharmacist to help you.
    • tell your doctor if you have or have ever had liver disease.
    • not take acetaminophen if you drink three or more alcoholic drinks every day. Talk to your doctor about the safe use of alcohol while you are taking acetaminophen.
    • stop taking your medication and call your doctor right away if you think you have taken too much acetaminophen, even if you feel well.
    A year ago May 18, I had the habit of taking a drink at night to alleviate the aches of old age. It was a habit that had grown over time. When I stopped drinking, it was hard to sleep until I took one, 500 mg Tylenol (acetaminophen). Less frequently, I 'out-think' aches and pains and use Tylenol when I need a little help from my friends.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    No more vaccine worries then.
     
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    "A TikTok user sowing alarm over the Oct. 4 test alert shared a clip from the 2016 sci-fi horror film Cell, in which a mysterious signal received by phones turns their owners into rabid killers who foam at the mouth."

    They get this partly right. They just don't understand that it comes from a continual stream of signals that started years ago, that it doesn't come from the gu'mint, and that they are the ones being zombified.
     
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