Consumer Reports review and ratings of Gen 5 Prius—with side-by-side comparison to Gen 4

that says 39 and 44 as well.

 

Toyota says 39 and 44, but to quote from the article:

"The EPA estimate for the Prius Prime SE gets up to 52 mpg combined once the battery is depleted—just 5 mpg less than the most efficient version of the regular Prius. Higher trim levels get 48 mpg combined. "

That's really unnecessary.

Don't agree, fine. Explain why rather than used veiled profanity.

 

I have never gotten any helpful information from consumer reports ever. It’s the kind of resource my 80 year old parents use.

 

I took a screenshot of an excerpt from the CR first drive impressions for the Prius Prime to clarify the numbers. Essentially just quoting Toyota's numbers for EV only range at 39 (XSE, XSE premium) and 44(SE) for the different trims. They have not reported any of their own numbers yet for EV only range as far as I can tell.

 

Well, there's that 'buy american' policy kicking in- no rebate for you!

But i think you still have to consider the std equipment is higher on the gen 5 than 4, accounting for some of the difference.

 

All you need to read are these three metrics to understand that the Consumer Reports staff are out of their gourd. They have zero credibility.

 

Okay Dad.

 

See, this is why I don't trust anything you post at first glance anymore. The base price of a 2017 Prime was a few bucks under $28k. A comparable 2023 Prime SE is $33.5k. (Top trim: $34k in 2017 vs. $40.3k in 2023)

You're probably going to come back by saying that you could get federal and state incentives back in 2017 and that there are dealer markups in 2023, but that's utter bullshit if you don't say you're including those caveats when you make your initial statement.

The reality is that the price increase from the gen4 Prime to the gen5 is slightly below the overall rate of average new car inflation. On average, a $28k car 2017 would typically be a $34.3k car today. The real price of $33.5k slightly beats that.

 

And I would never buy a Corolla. Toyotas themselves are pretty reliable cars, I’m not always going for the mostest, bestest most reliable car according to ONE outlet. This is why Consumer Reports is useless to me. They have their own system and their own metrics that don’t match up with others and mine. So who cares.

 

No - no matter how many times "Toyota is making a fortune" is shouted from the mountain tops it's not part of anyone's reality. Toyota MANUFACTURING is making less of "them" - because they were caught with their pants down ... unable to secure enough batteries for their upcoming (hopefully) Electric fleet - much less their plugins, much less their hybrids.

That's why Toyota's outgoing CEO was continually crying, "we can make a dozen hybrids for one electric car" ... because they didn't care to secure their transitionary future via battery supplies. With less cars available because of THAT - it means dealerships are able to price gouge. No one here mistakes price gouging for Toyota Manufacturing being able to "make a fortune".
The slimy sales critters is not Toyota - it's a beiken sales system that most manufacturers failed at designing.
Then you add to that - a constantly devalued dollar via trillion dollar paper money printing? nope - norhing to see here.

In fact - MOST manufacturers are spending a ton on redesign - so that they can have/build the government's electric cars. Now they're going through quality building pains. Tesla already shoveled those tons of money into building factories & parts acquisition - so that's given them an advantage in the transition.

But if it makes anyone feel good to say Toyota is making a fortune instead of solo sales Critters? ok -Others will just smile

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my apologies, i thought you were talking about ev range for some reason

okay, now i'm really confused

 

Batmobile to Blandmobile, it makes no difference, tastes change, styles come and go. Thinking of my old neighbor gone now who had a 64 Ford Galaxy, he was never dissatisfied with what he had. I change cars too much. That’s why they change the style, creates the pull to have the new.

 

Meah . . . . drum brakes ? Not a fan . Especially after putting so much work everywhere else.

 

How could trunk and cargo area be rated the same. Some of these ratings seem a bit off to me compared to the reviews I’ve obsessively watched over the past months.

 

How could trunk and cargo area be rated the same for Gen 4 and 5. That makes no sense. Some of these ratings seem a bit off to me compared to the reviews I’ve obsessively watched over the past months.

 

one has a raised hatch floor, the other has a narrower opening and lower roofline?