Michelin Defender $134 vs Pirelli P4 $87

I ran defenders on my v...... how many miles on the car?

 

I never spend $100 on a tire I can tell you that I don't care what they claim they'll do I've never made 80,000 miles on a pair of Michelin defenders or whatever their high mileage tire is now they wore out and about 60 for me and at 120 $30 a piece plus mounting balancing and so on and so forth Man that's $480 for a set of tires $500 basically I spend about half of that generally speaking I want them to wear out in 40,000 mi so when the tires are worn out they're almost white colored were very faded a set of Michelin defenders will be faded in the first two years in the last two or three years you're trying to get the 80K on them You're riding around with tires that are the color of old faded black drapes hanging in the window that are turning white from the Sun.

 

P4 pays for itself and lasts a lot longer

 

@C Clay

Can you upload pictures of your tires?

I have these P4 tires and was happy to see how long they can be good for when I bought them.

These are not that loud and once you get past the break in period your mpg will go back up.

Keep up on rotations, balancing and alignments and they should go as long as they say they do.

Upload your pictures!!

 

I have the defenders. They’re incredibly loud, drivers next to me cover their ears and tell me to get quieter tires all the time.

 

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That's pretty cool You guys are doing pretty great whatever the heck I have no clue I had Michelin defenders once or twice and for what they caused the tire stores cut mounting balancing and all that nonsense some of the most expensive things I've ever bought for a car well kind of And they made I think 60K this is before they were rated for the 120 or whatever they are now I was actually quite disappointed but when your car is on the road for business service vehicles and all that you never get that kind of mileage That's why no service vehicle tires come rated anything like that or they didn't now they may have changed the rating standard so that they can bring those numbers up but I don't think anything in the tires has changed. Usually they change the way the ratings done that favors the product or at least it seems that way.

 

You could always rotate them yourself....
One jackstand, one jack.

 

Why try to rotate them one by one on your own, when you can take it to Americas Tire and have them rotate and balance them all for FREE and faster than you would rotate them one by one without even balancing them.

Rotate, balance, alignment and proper tire inflation will keep your tires lasting longer.

Do not do it the lazy way.

 

Why try to rotate them one by one on your own, when you can take it to Americas Tire and have them rotate and balance them all for FREE and faster than you would rotate them one by one without even balancing them.

Rotate, balance, alignment and proper tire inflation will keep your tires lasting longer.

Do not do it the lazy way.

 

That place doesn’t tighten lug balls and tires always under spec pressures. And then wait for 30 mins to pull the car into bay and another 30 mins til you get the keys. I rather do it myself

 

I got hankook tires. Enough traction for the winding backroads of va and md but I always get nails and screws in them. Bad brand?

 

Nails and screws are not the tire’s fault. No magnetism….

 

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