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Ordered A2Z adapter kit

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by bwilson4web, Oct 2, 2023.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I have no business interest but found this adapter and kit to give my 2019 Model 3 and a CCS-1 adapter:
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    There are YouTubes out there showing similar board and cable installations.

    My battery capacity as expected is down to ~48 from 55 kWh. This lets me use CCS-1 chargers (if operational) for a quick boost along a direct route. Given $15k for a 55 kWh battery replacement, it comes out that adding 7 kWh would cost $1,910.

    The operational scenario:
    • Plan a normal 1.5-2.5 hr, direct, Supercharger-to-Supercharger segment - excellent reliability.
    • Any Supercharger deviations adding miles - look for CCS-1 fast DC chargers along direct route. Add a "bridge the gap" charge at the earliest opportunity. If the CCS-1 charger is down, take the Supercharger diversion.
    Bob Wilson
     
    #1 bwilson4web, Oct 2, 2023
  2. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Got this today:
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    Mine was a simple board swap (2021) and reinstall of the firmware to detect the new board.

    I used CCS charging only twice. First one was to try the installation and the second one was because there was no Superchargers around. That last one was typical of what I've been hearing about the CCS infrastructure.

    There was only two stalls there (typical of a CCS station), one 150KW and a 50KW. I plugged the car in the 150KW stall and... it didn't want to charge. Something on the screen saying the stall was unable to initiate the charge.

    I pressed the Contact support button on the stall and although it was a friday afternoon (not a weekend, or night or holiday, middle of a working day), it took 13 minutes for someone to answer and it took him 6 minutes to initiate the charge. At a Supercharger, I would have been done and on my way by then! I'm going to leave CCS stations to emergency situations only (which this situation was).
     
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  4. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I agree as my 2016 experience with CCS-1 was abysmally disappointing. Only two of three attempts worked and the failed one, I used the range extender to get home. But there is a new ChargePoint, dual-hose, 65 kW station about 40 miles away to the West in Tuscumbia.

    If I can get a booster charge there, I can reach Memphis and/or Tunica (casinos) by a direct route. Otherwise I have to hope the Corinth L2s are working or divert 25 miles to Tupelo. Either workaround adds nearly 45 minutes to the trip. Using Tuscumbia, a bathroom break is more than enough to bridge the gap.

    I'm also planning to see the solar eclipse in Albuquerque, 1,300 miles away. There is a Supercharger gap between Fort Smith AR and Oklahoma City. There are four CCS-1 stations along the way to fill the gap.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Installed the kit today. Other than ordinary installation issues, the "software reload" hung. So I did a 12 V power-on, restart and the car came back ready to work:
    • $0.32/kWh = $2.16 / 6.7 kWh - SuperCharger cost
    • $0.42/kWh = $3.33 / 8.0 kWh - Electrify America (EA)
    Although my charge limit is set to 75% for local operation, the EA system only charged to 70%. Hummmm.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Bob - how long are you planning on keeping your M3. Driving just 3 or 4 blocks from home this evening I saw this 2021 M.Y. with for-SALE signs in the windows;

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    seemed to have a few decent upgrades - with a sticker indicating price was dropped and even at that negotiable. I'm just wondering if it has 2170 or 4680 sells & radient heat vs pump.
    Doubt the better ½ will let me sell the current (too small for my 6'-4" frame) ride.
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    "Until the wheels fall off" or the cost of repair is more than the cost to replace. Today's projection is about seven years:
    • 0 yrs - 0 mi, battery at ~100% capacity or 240 mi EV range
    • 4 yrs - 117,000 mi, battery at ~90% original capacity or ~215 mi EV range
    • 7 yrs from now - expected ~300,000 mi, ~70% battery or ~170 mi EV range
    Things I'm doing to extend the life:
    1. 2017 BMW i3-REx for local area errands to reduce wear on Tesla battery
    2. Better tires
    3. 100% Aero wheel covers (hub caps)
    4. Repair road damaged under panels
    5. Aerodynamic tweaks to front air inlets
    6. Improved instrumentation and benchmark data
    7. Converting passenger seat into a recliner
    You know, like what I used to do with my 2003 and 2010 Prius. I traded the Prime in for the Tesla.

    I figure after 10 years, EV technology will have moved on enough to significantly improve the available EV products. Understand I am less worried about EV range than charging speed and a dense, reliable, charging network. Better self-maintenance and driver assist systems too as I'll be ~80 years old.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    "Until the wheels fall off" or the cost of repair is more than the cost to replace. Today's projection is about seven years:
    • 0 yrs - 0 mi, battery at ~100% capacity or 240 mi EV range
    • 4 yrs - 117,000 mi, battery at ~90% original capacity or ~215 mi EV range
    • 7 yrs from now - expected ~300,000 mi, ~70% battery or ~170 mi EV range
    Things I'm doing to extend the life:
    1. 2017 BMW i3-REx for local area errands to reduce wear on Tesla battery
    2. Better tires
    3. 100% Aero wheel covers (hub caps)
    4. Repair road damaged under panels
    5. Aerodynamic tweaks to front air inlets
    6. Improved instrumentation and benchmark data
    7. Converting passenger seat into a recliner
    You know, like what I used to do with my 2003 and 2010 Prius. I traded the Prime in for the Tesla.

    I figure after 10 years, EV technology will have moved on enough to significantly improve the available EV products. Understand I am less worried about EV range than charging speed and a dense, reliable, charging network. Better self-maintenance and driver assist systems too as I'll be ~80 years old.

    Bob Wilson
     
    #8 bwilson4web, Nov 3, 2023
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    That's one reason we bought the Prime. We were putting way too many miles on the Tesla (heck, it's a fun car to drive!). Base warranty would have been over in 2.5 years instead of 4! So we try to limit the Tesla to long distance and use the Prime for city driving where most of the mileage is done.
     
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