Anyone have problems with oil changes on the Gen 5?

Kirkland Oil, Super Tech? It sounds like El Cheapo. Put at least Mobil 1 if you go through the trouble of DIY.

 

The mutipoint inspection takes 5-10 min, while the oil is draining. I collect the oil in a special container and after multiple changes, it goes to the auto parts store 5 min from my home at my convenience. The oil doesn't have to be from Toyota, $27 for Mobil 1, $8 for the Toyota filter, which are good and cheap.
The only extra is tire rotation, which isn't necessary at the time of oil change. My tire shop does it free and is 3 minutes from my home. It's usually 20-30min but at my convenience
By the time I go to the dealer, wait, wait, and wait, it's at least the entire morning.

 

I have a very good dealer. The dealer invoice clearly shows the part numbers for bulk TGMO 0W-16 and amount, OEM oil filter, and OEM drain-plug gasket with the prices for them.

Canada prices are different. You can't buy bulk TGMO. It comes in a 55-gallon drum.

 

Multipoint inspection also involves looking at brakes, ball joints, etc.

Tire rotation is required every 6 months/5,000 miles, whichever comes first.

In my case, the wait is only about an hour, perhaps an hour and a half. They have plenty of service bays.

 

So? How long do you think it takes to do a MPI? Lol
Tire rotation is always by miles not time.
I can't take you seriously (not that I ever did)

 

Last week's dealer oil change/tire rotation/multipoint inspection.

 

Wrong again. See your maintenance manual. It is 6 months/5,000 miles, whichever comes first. Go, argue with Toyota.

 

@purplePriii getting to know your 2023 Prime dipstick is a learning process. The only way you're going to know for sure is to do your own oil change.
A tip for reading the dip stick is to check both sides. If the stick goes into the oil on an angle (like it does in the Gen4 ) the flip side of the dipstick is going to read differently than the first side you look at.
Twist the dip stick around and redip the stick again, than check both sides. rinse repeat as necessary.
Have a strong flashlight and possibly even a magnifying glass available, while checking the oil level. 0w16 oil is pretty thin and can be difficult if near impossible to even see on the stick at times. After doing your own change using 0w16 or 0w8 oil you'll probably see for yourself.
I'd recommend a 5 quart jug of ( whichever brand 0w16 oil you prefer) if you can find it reasonably prices ( walmart ) mobil one, valvoline maybe others now too )). Recently some newer models are even calling for 0w8 but I'd stick with whichever weight your Prime calls for, as marked on the oil refill cap.

 

Why not also insult @Mendel Leisk ?

They are full synthetic and meet the manufacturers' standards.

They couldn't be bothered to report the tire pressures? Did they even check?

They group maintenance items together to simplify things. Oil changes are the most frequent one that is important, so lump all the inspections and tire rotations with it to make it easier for owners to keep track.. The Toyota schedule has not changed much since they had 5000 mile/6 month oil changes.

Tire rotations are only needed when the tread depth between tires starts to deviate. Doing it regularly without measuring tread depth can mask alignment issues.

 

Way too much chest-beating going on here; sounds like BITOG shenanigans.

 

Mendel is a nice, cool gentleman. I didn't think I insulted you.

Not manufacturer standards—minimal manufacturer requirements. Manufacturer standard is ester-containing, high-moly, high-boron, max-allowed-ZDDP TGMO made by ExxonMobil, and those store-brand oils don't come close.

As I said, complain to Toyota. Tire rotation is not exact science, and the owners should stick to to the manufacturer recommendations in general rather than following Internet advice.

I know! Yes, you said it—it yucks!

 

They have a meter on the hose or the drum like they always had, I suppose. My 0w-16 is SP.

 

Yeah, why even take the pot shot?

Why not simply say that?

Toyota dealer sites list Mobil 1 as acceptable. There were models they listed as TGMO only, but I suspect they were ones calling for 0w16. That is still new, and called for in limited models. It has only started showing up in the aftermarket brands in the past couple years. So the dealer sites likely aren't accounting for was is currently available.

If what Toyota wants in the oil is truly a must have, they should have their own standard, and not list other industry ones as correct to use.

 

I have never seen Toyota requiring TGMO on certain Toyotas. SAE 0W-16 has been here for many, many years now, and even SAE 0W-8 and SAE 0W-12 have been around for sometime now.

As far as Toyota is concerned, any oil that meets ILSAC is acceptable. Perhaps you remember something from many, many years ago when SAE 0W-16 wasn't part of ILSAC. I was only pointing out that Toyota has TGMO specifically designed for certain performance criteria in mind—some polyol ester added for piston-ring cleaning, high boron as sludge dispersant, high moly for better fuel efficiency, and a good dose of ZDDP for wear protection—I never said that aftermarket oil was not acceptable. As you said and use, even ILSAC-certified Super Tech or Kirkland are OK.

These store-brand oils are manufactured by third-party blenders who buy generic precertified additive packages from Afton, Lubrizol, Oronite, etc. and then blend them with some base oil they buy. They should usually be decent enough. Occasionally, they don't do something right—especially smaller blenders. Sometimes Petroleum Quality Institute of America will catch those in their random testing.

 

OK.