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Finally the dreaded P0301 Code

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by imgarrett, Nov 2, 2023.

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    Caution here: Toyota really did add a low engine oil warning in a later Prius generation, but a Gen 3 has no such thing. It only has the low oil pressure light, which only comes on when the oil is so low that it can't be pumped and the engine is eating itself.

    In a Gen 3 (or earlier), it is important to use the dipstick and manage your oil level to make that light never ever come on.
     
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    Likely the cylinder walls are scored in area because of sticking oil rings....
    Either add a short block, or purchase a remanufactured engine, maybe hybrid pit?

    "IF" the cylinder walls are not scored, you could hone them out and then put the newer
    pistons and ring in.
     
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    In addition to likely damage due to operating the engine dangerously low on oil.
     
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    So I just cleaned my EGR and it's only been about 15-20k-ish miles since I last cleaned it (was the first time ever then) and it looked as bad as before I cleaned it the first time. Is it normal for the EGR to get that dirty in that short amount of time to where you can't see through it? What exactly causes the EGR to get so dirty, mind you I have an OCC installed too.
     
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    A gen3 burning oil sends hydrocarbons to the egr before the cat has a chance to burn it. Gen4 takes exhaust to the cat first then the egr dramatically reducing hydrocarbons to a big egr. This is combined with improved pistons, ring, cylinder insulators etc.

    An OCC tries to condense oil sump fumes before they get into the intake. A different circuit unrelated to the egr.

    Bottom line: If you are burning 3.5-4 qts in 5k miles, enough to alarm on low oil pressure, you need a rebuilt engine. Which usually requires a better short block, used or new.
     
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    Did you replace the head gasket, or are you now in the process of doing it?
     
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    I'm still in the process, I got the wrong headbolt socket, so waiting on the correct one to arrive. Then I should be able to remove the head.
     
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    Head is finally off. Cylinder walls look fine to me, tops of the pistons don't look that great and neither do the valves. What's the best way to clean them?

    I'm having trouble uploading photos in the forum to show, it keeps failing it says.
     
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    One work around is to upload somewhere else, say Google Drive, then link it here.

    Do the tops of the cylinders pistons look relatively uniform? How's the head gasket look? Check in particular the wall between cylinders one and two (standing at front of engine bay, cylinder one is at left end)
     
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    The valves you can remove, since your going to replace the valve guide seals anyways... right? :whistle:
    And if you have a wired wheel on a grinder attached to a bench, you can use that to clean them off.
    That's how I clean them. You can us carb cleaner to clean the ports.
    BEFORE you remove the valves, lay the head flat and spray WD40 in all the ports. You don't need
    a lot. Wait about 5 minutes can carefully raise the head and look to see if any valves are leaving.
    If any are leaking you'll need some valve grinding compond and a drill to seat the valves in.
    If you do one, do them all. It's not that hard and doesn't take that long.
    Make sure you a smaller spring compressor to remove the keepers. They are tiny, do not lose them!!!

    For the pistons, you can put a thin bead of grease between the piston and cylinder wall,
    with the piston at TDC. And use a scrapping small pry bar and carefully scrape off the carbon.
    Wipe it off with a wrag and brake cleaner or carb cleaner. Then you can lower the piston and clean
    the grease away.
     
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    EDIT: I misread what you said. I was thinking the tops of the pistons you were referring to.

    Tops definitely don't look uniform, I would say 2 & 3 are the worst looking of the 4. 1 being the cleanest of the bunch.
     
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    I would have the head inspected and reconditioned by a machine shop.
     
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    Is there a video on doing this?
     
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    Yeah sorry, I did mean to say top of pistons. I’ve edited my post.

    judging from your pics ((y)), top of piston one does look cleaner, likely due to coolant getting in. Picture of head gasket clearly shows failure at adjoining Easley between cylinders one and two as well.

    the rest of the head gasket looks not too far gone, which hopefully means you’ve caught it early enough that there’s no bent piston arms or breakage in the damper between engine and transaxle.
     
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    Well, Pistons 2 and 3 are clean enough to eat off of now.



    I'll work on 1 and 4 tomorrow. and will try to figure out how to change the valve seals.
     
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    Be real careful with that kind of cleaning. Don't use a metal wire brush or metal tools. If you scrape the surface at all you can create a stress riser. You just need to get the thick buildup off, you don't need to get it clean enough to eat off of.

    But I do applaud your effort :)
     
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    Brass bristle brush?.
     
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    They look new! Good Job!
    How did you clean them? What did you use?

    If you search youtube for "replace valve guide seals" there will be several videos
    on how to do it. Make sure you have a strong magnet to catch the keepers....

     
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    Thanks! I actually used oven cleaner funny enough, easy off.
     
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