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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Dec 25, 2023.

  1. hill

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    or wait for the TV's tubes to warm up
     
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    or get off the sofa to change the channel, or have to hold the rabbit ears so the picture would't flip.

    darn technological advances, who needs 'em?
     
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    time to subscribe to starlink?

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    Yeah, I used to have one of those magnetic key holder on my cars a long time ago. They rust and can fall off. Not worth the trouble.

    On my Prius, the mechanical key can only unlock the car, not start it. If the fob battery dies, I have to hold the fob near the start button to start it. But what about if the fob itself dies. What now? I'm SOL.

    If my phone dies and if I forgot my wallet and at the same time if can't reach my wife (or my son since he also has access to the car) because either of them or me are out of cell coverage or if the cell network is down... That's a lot of ifs... Especially when the first 'if' hasn't even happened once so far. The second 'if', like I said, a few times but not the first. It helps that every time I set the phone down in the car, it charges.

    As for paying a subscription fee for that, I don't know. I never had to think about that since it comes free with every Tesla.
     
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    I was a Starlink subscriber for 18 months, until fiber was finally installed at the cottage. It now cost half as much for a faster throughput. Starlink is EXPENSIVE, but when you have no other alternatives...
     
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    Oh, like my first wife?

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I like the sks. Gm is similar.
    Tesla card was fine, and better when you consider you don’t have the bulky fob in your pocket.
    Taking it out and touching the pillar was not a burden, and the phone option is even better.
    But some with hidden agendas like to try and make mountains out of molehills
     
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    Then you can go WAY over the top as to tech'y ....with model X's self presenting driver’s door. You just walk up close to the door & it opens by itself. You get in - step on break & the door closes itself
    LOL
    Willys jeep & civilian CJ2's didn't have those fancy high tech key ignition just a starter button. Almost the same thing as leaving the vehicle running ...
     
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    john1701a Prius Guru

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    Hoping for something good to shakeout from the rhetoric here, I waited. It is the foundational concept from which "know you audience" originates. Engineers tuned into consumer understanding will recognize the fundamental barrier, a problem extremely difficult to overcome. Enthusiasts online will just dismiss it as "word salad" and miss its vital importance. Ugh.

    When "software" is mentioned, it is assumed all the same. Reading through these posts overwhelmingly confirm that. It is why there is so much superiority chest-pounding that is such an enormous waste. It is the difference between operating-system and user-interface. Notice how whenever someone brings up "software" there is always a reference to the app, something related to what the driver would do to command the vehicle. It is what the vehicle does to provide that interaction or what happens unseen to keep the vehicle operational.

    In other words, what a button does isn't relevant in the "behind" narrative. Yet, that's the way keyboard warriors treat it. Again, ugh. That's why most of these discussions never make any progress.
     
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    Well there are two user interfaces that a driver interacts with, the in car display and the phone app. So tell me, which one do you consider being the most intuitive/responsive/reliable?
     
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    here we go again, everyone on the merry go round! :p
     
  12. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    Yes. Ugh.
    You cannot even answer a simple question on what features Toyota provides in their phone app and which ones you find the most useful.
    Instead you act as though it is a philosophical question.

    Ugh.

    Mike
     
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    I nailed it! Bisco, I should have made it a bet:eek::D
     
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    John, people use the term ‘Word Salad’ because many of your posts seem to be tossing a bunch of words together.
    What does the quoted sentence mean?
    What is the “‘behind’ narrative”?
    Behind the scene?
    Behind in technology?
    Behind in sales?
    Behind in BEVs?
    Behind something else?

    Don’t just sit back and wait, help us understand what you are trying to get across.
     
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    Most useful is a subjective measure. Toyota phone app is off-topic. I don't see any reason to take the bait.
     
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    John1701a won't answer you. He's the self appointed moderator of the internet, and only he gets to decide what's on-topic and off-topic. Nailing him down on a specific point is impossible.
     
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    as i said, see post #3 for the main culprit
     
  18. mikefocke

    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    Guys ... and it is all guys I presume posting ... GM Blazer is the title of the thread.

    And to go off topic to John in 109, there are hardware, firmware, OS and app interface layers before the app even gets to start and the user gets to request something. Not to mention user or manufactured default and options settings.

    It all has to play together to exhibit a user perceived functionality.
     
  19. sylvaing

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    Although he's the one who derailed the thread... Go figure...
     
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    thanks mike, you're always helpful, but i don't think it's necessary to call out people by how they define themselves.
    let's just keep it to the topic of gm blazer
     
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