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Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by ETC(SS), Feb 1, 2024.

  1. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

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    There's a lesson in there for the 2A folks.
     
  2. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    And not the 1A...or the 4A?
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    5 things to know about the Senate border deal | The Hill
    READ: Text of senators’ proposed border deal and foreign aid package | CNN Politics
    Senators unveil bipartisan bill to impose tougher asylum and border laws

    It's actually a good bit of jujitsu on the part of the Donkeys.
    They know that this proposal has a zero-percent chance of getting passed in either chamber but they get to blame it on their opponents knowing that most people will not bother to read the 350-some-odd pages (I haven't, yet) or wonder at the meaning of words like "encounters" "contiguous" and the significance of '45 days.'

    It also lets the current administration off the hook with the whole 'funding Israel' thing that would otherwise publicly inflame their 'river to the sea' faction.
    The concrete is swiftly setting on this issue but, fortunately or unfortunately, sanctuary cities are getting more and more crowded, and November is a looooooooooooooong way away.

    NORMALLY more immigrants are a good thing demographically.......buuuuuuut. ;)
     
  4. Mr.Vanvandenburg

    Mr.Vanvandenburg Senior Member

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    There never was a first pass it then read it, Obamacare. All made up with relentless word manipulation until now people think it was true.
     
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    It's all too often the mentality tho .....
    https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2010/03/09/pelosi-pass-health-reform-so-you-can-find-out-whats-in-it
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    Mr.Vanvandenburg Senior Member

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    Who is “you” in the clipped out quote. We are in Critical Thinking class here.
     
  7. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Bottom Line:

    SOME US Senators CAN read.
    They KNOW for example, the meaning of the word "encounter" and "contiguous".......
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bipartisan-border-ukraine-deal-looks-set-fail-us-senate-2024-02-07/

    First Two Rules in Warfare:
    Hope is NOT a plan.
    The enemy gets a vote.

    The current regime tried mightily to put lipstick on a pig, but the pig wiggled out of their grasp.
    HOWEVER (comma!)
    They still get to use misinformation/disinformation on the weak minded.

    Lather, rinise, repeat.
     
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    I would have added:
    • Truth is the first victim
    Bob Wilson
     
  9. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Possible third rule.....

    I'll keep the first two, as ranked.
     
  10. Mr.Vanvandenburg

    Mr.Vanvandenburg Senior Member

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    Back to CT class, Pelosi wasn’t referring to members of Congress with you have to pass it to know what’s in it. She was correct in how she said it.
    Another one for CT is Hillary’s “what difference does it make”. Which she was talking about what difference does it make what they called the motives of the embassy attackers. Again, she was correct and exposed the word cutting and misinformation machine attacking her.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    It wasn't an embassy. It was a 'diplomatic compound' although I can understand how many people who are unfamiliar with these things might get them mixed up.
    After all.....we did lose the Ambassador in that incident, although it was in 2012 - so it's not like he was an Ambassador to a functioning nation.
    Our third largest foreign 'own-goal' in this century's second decade was taking the stopper out of the bottle in Africa when Gaddafi died with a piece of concrete rebar inserted in a very uncomfortable place - and when nations play stupid games, they win stupid prizes.

    The CRITICAL thinker already knows WHAT the other two Own Goals were in the 2010s - in order of FUBAR'dness.

    HRC payed for her sins by being remember in history as being the only DNC nominee who was worse than John Kerry at being defeated by a VERY marginal opponent.

    You should just let her enjoy her retirement. ;)


    2012 Benghazi attack - Wikipedia
    What Are Embassies, Consulates, and Missions? [Video] - The National Museum of American Diplomacy.
     
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  12. Mr.Vanvandenburg

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    The defeat was mainly due to the years of misinformation 24/7 about her, and the lie about “what difference does it make” refers to the “embassy” attack and lives lost. She didn’t say that. She was clear in what she said but they left that part out. Then something like 13 investigations with no wrong doing found, it went into her “emails.”
    Same is happening now, much worse, lying about what everyone’s eyes saw. While he sat fiddling in the WH hoping to retain power. Taking clips and saying “oh look it was just a tour.” Forget the officer being crushed in the doorway, screaming, as a mob of people pawed at his face like zombies. Forget Pence running for safety to the garage with the nuke codes running behind.
    So Nero 2 is probably going to be the nominee does not show the other candidate is not good.
    Play the Nuremberg rally tapes, it happened before. When he got the power and people went into a trance, it was over.
    CT class should also add she didn’t lose the actual votes of the people, not even close, and Nero 2 said if he wins the vote but loses the electoral college there would be riots in the streets. Funny how that tune changed instantly.
     
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  13. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    HEY ALEXA......
    What is the meaning of NON SEQUITUR?

    non se·qui·tur
    /ˌnän ˈsekwədər/
    noun

    1. a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
      "his weird mixed metaphors and non sequiturs"

    I can understand why a topic about the recent border dust-up might be a little uncomfortable for you to read about.
    Speaking of 'weird mixed metaphors' you seem to be oddly fixated on some Nuremberg Tapes.

    Why not start your own thread?
    If this is your 'thing" then share the wealth with your fellow posters!!
    WW2 was, after all, another kind of 'border thing.' ;)

    BEWARE!
    My High School History teacher was ALSO largely untalented at history since he was dual hatted as our assistant football coach - In my beloved home state of Indiana where BASKETBALL coaches are much more important.
    He did sincerely try.....
    He was also played as an offensive lineman in College, so we had VERY few disciplinary troubles in that class! ;)

    In the years since high school and during my career in working for uncle both in uniform and out - AND working in a union shop for the last 25 years - I have corrected some of the more serious aspects of my disadvantaged upbringing.

    Meanwhile - I will seek out a book or two about the Nuremberg Trials.
    I have a fairly rudimentary working knowledge of the Tokyo Trials, which lasted a bit longer and have some interesting twists.
    BOTH have influenced international law and the Law of Armed Conflict - so it will be interesting to do a stare and compare.....
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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  16. Mr.Vanvandenburg

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    Didn’t finish her words, but at least you quoted the beginning part. She is talking about the nonsense of word smithing away what people actually said. She was 100% correct what difference does it make what the reason they had? Was it the video, or was it they were drunk, who cares about the terrorist’s thoughts at this point.
    Like with Pelosi, and Obama too. Nothing but lies based on altering meanings of words.
    Class is going pretty well.