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Air bubbles in 2012 toyota prius coolant system

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    Stevenschu74#?20 Junior Member

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    I have air bubbles in my coolant system; I watched guy on YouTube, he said to open up temperature sensor or temperature sensor hose, does anyone know where that is or how to do, can you send pics if you know, thanks!
     
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    You might not have this as they removed it after a certain year but I am not sure when. Screenshot_2022-03-18-17-20-43-1.jpeg
     
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    2012 model year that coolant bleed valve I think is gone, but you could still temporarily pull off a top hose right there (it’s highest point in coolant circuit, while adding more coolant, giving air in the system an escape route.

    what’s the miles on it?
     
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    What are your reasons for thinking so, and have you tried simply following the repair manual method for filling the coolant?

    Your 2012 has a degas-bottle style of cooling system. The extra headspace in the plastic reservoir is where the air should end up when you're done.

    The procedure starts by filling the reservoir extra full (up to the line marked B). Then you put the cap on, start the engine, and run it all the way up to operating temperature (this can take a long time) and then several minutes more, during which you can squeeze and shake some hoses.

    Then shut the car off and wait for everything to cool down and contract to the surrounding temperature. Look at the level of coolant in the reservoir; it should have traded places with the remaining air in the system, and dropped from B down to FULL.

    Some early cars had the extra valve you probably saw in the YouTube video. Toyota dropped that later, and when they dropped it they did not add any extra steps in the repair manual, no undoing hoses or anything. They simply took out all old mentions of fiddling with that valve. They left the procedure for swapping the air into the degas bottle, unchanged.
     
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    280,000 can you please send a photo of hose I should take off??
     
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    Right here:

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    The only thing I had tried was running car with cap off, the car sounds perfect but like others have said when they get air bubbles, once you start to get up to higher speeds or climb hills that's when it tries to overheat. See, my thermostat was failing so I replaced, many have said that when you do a thermostat or water pump these cars are notorious for getting air bubbles, I have Scanner, of course no codes because no codes for air bubbles. And you can clearly see tons of air bubbles, I don't have a manual for it and have read that it can be difficult to get air bubbles out. Please help further, pictures and diagrams help me more with explanation.
     
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    There are so many hoses, which one you take off? And if I take one off do I plug it or leave it open??
     
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    You tried to send photo but it didn't come through, you can email me at [email protected]
     
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    My ? Chapman is how many times do I have to do that step, is it a one time deal or do I need to turn it on and off several times?
     
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    I’m suspecting chaps being clever, posted a white pic?

    anyway, wouldn’t hurt to pull this one while adding coolant, might allow some air to escape, then reconnect it, once coolant starts flowing out.

    grabber tool tip at the hose:

    IMG_3546.jpeg
     
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    Sorry, I can't see what hose your talking bout, can you point it out? Did you read what Chapman said to do, for that method Don't think you have to undo hose.
     
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    I see a hose on lower part of egr, but not sure what your showing me, my eyes are not that good
     
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    Where and when are you seeing these bubbles? Actually seeing them makes this the most direct evidence here. Do you see them all the time, or only when the coolant reaches a certain temperature?

    That observation is less direct evidence, as it mostly just reflects that "air bubbles" is something people often say when they don't know why a car is overheating. Sometimes a wider net has to be cast to find the cause.

    As there is only so much air that ever could be trapped in the system, you would eventually stop seeing bubbles once they all arrived at the degas bottle (as long as you never let the bottle get low enough for its bottom hose to suck air).

    If there are bubbles that just keep on appearing as long as the engine is running, they could be bubbles of something that isn't air, maybe exhaust from a damaged head gasket.

    Someone attached the updated repair manual instructions for coolant replacement here (though the illustrations didn't survive, for some reason, the steps are there):

    https://priuschat.com/attachments/2011-prius-engine-coolant-replacement-pdf.68950/
     
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    Is it still good for 2012 model?
     
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    I'm gonna try the 1st method fill to B line, start up to temperature, then turn off but for that method do I just do it once or do I need to turn on/off several times?
     
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    Normally with head gasket you lose fluid, that hasn’t been happening.
     
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    Maybe this will help, last year my waterpump failed(I have a Scanner that gave that code for bad waterpump) and last week I put in new thermostat because I know when the temp should come down and it was continuously going up, so new waterpump, new thermostat Stat, I can drive it, sounds fine, takes a while but it will overheat if I don't slow down, pull over, ect.
     
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    Those are the updated instructions for all gen 3 liftbacks.

    Just once normally does it. Be sure you notice that step (e) is to put the cap on the bottle, and step (g)(1) is to run up to temperature and then several minutes longer. (g)(2) is to do some squeezing and shaking of hoses. Step (h) is to check the final coolant level, but only after everything contracts and cools back to surrounding temperature.
     
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    It's a cool day here, probably gonna take while to get up to temperature, I will try, by the way air blows super cold, heat nice and hot, I've heard some say heat sometimes blows cool with air bubbles, not case for me, I'm just curious, so when I just ran the car before in maintenance mode with cap off why didn't that work?