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Completed Head Gasket Replacement

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Technical Discussion' started by TAPnAR, Feb 9, 2024.

  1. TAPnAR

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    Just wanted to post about my Head Gasket replacement. The procedure was not nearly as hard as I thought it would be. Total cost with new parts about $300 and 16 hours of work. Not really any special tools required, although I did have to buy the Triple Square bit for the head bolts $7. If I had to do it again and I had a clean EGR cooler, and a head ready to go back on. I could do this easily in 8-10 hours. I watched the Gasket masters videos and they were very helpful in giving an idea of what to expect and tools required.

    I used the Felpro gasket kit, Felpro Headbolts, about 25% of a tube of Permatex ultra black silicone, 2 seals for the valve cover that are not supplied in the kit about $10 for both from Toyota, new cam chain tensioner and gasket from Toyota. I will say looking at the Felpro HG vs the Toyota, it seemed to be much better quality. As well as the Valve seals, the OEM ones were hard not pliable at all.

    It has been over 2000 miles since I did the work and the car has never run so good. The most time consuming part of the job was cleaning that dang EGR cooler, I spent about $6 at the car wash and about 45 minutes of time blasting that thing out. Finally got it clean enough to see through it and when I got back home soaked it in degreaser for another few hours. As far as getting the car apart and cleaning everything up it was pretty easy. The only other part that was a little tedious was the valve seals. You have to make absolutely sure they are seated back properly and the keepers are installed correctly. Not hard, just have to triple check and make sure.

    My car is a 2013 Prius Five, I love the car and hopefully will drive it another 100k miles. I bought it back in October 2020, with 180k miles. It now has about 270k and has been a great car. Some of the things I have had to do in the past year were the Brake Master, and Water pump. One thing I noticed after completing the Head gasket replacement, is the car no longer uses any oil. Before I would use about 1/2 quart between 5k oil changes. Now oil consumption seems to be non existent. I will know in about 3k miles, but so far nothing or so little I cant measure it on the dip stick. No more rattle, or shaking when starting.

    If you are planning on doing this repair, watch the gasket master videos, and take your time. Be sure to label every item that comes off the engine and put it back exactly where it came from. I used a folding table in my garage covered in shop towels. And made sure all parts were put back exactly where they came from. One of the tricks that GM use is to place a folded shop towel in the cam journal to hold the cam in place after setting it to TDC that worked perfectly. Other than that, be sure to follow all torque specs.

    I am in NW Arkansas and if anyone needed assistance I would be more than happy to help out.

    Todd
     
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    Thanks! This is super encouraging for us folks who have yet to do one of these...

    Any tips on inspecting and prepping the metal on both sides of the head gasket?
     
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    How bad was the head gasket? Did you check if the head was warped?

     
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    Cleaning the mating surfaces on the head and cylinder was easy, most of the old gasket material wiped off with a little carb cleaner. any other residue I gently scraped off with a razor blade. I used a precision straight edge to check flatness of the head. I was fortunate that it was perfectly flat. I had never over heated the car so I was pretty confident it should be ok. Some of the signs I realized that the head gasket was going bad was pressure of the coolant reservoir. Before I could warm the car up and release pressure it was quite a bit. Now it barely has any after driving and getting up to temp. Just before replacing the HG, it got worse really quickly. I noticed coolant missing and gurgling in the heater core. I realized it needed to be done immediately. I chose not to drive the car anymore after hearing that. In my area, I was quoted $5000 and up from repair shops that had never done it before. I am normally someone that does their own maintenance and thought this might be a much harder job to tackle. It was really not a big deal, and could easily be done on the weekend with mostly common tools. Of course you will need a torque wrench. But other than that the triple square bit. And a precision straight edge to check head flatness.
     
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    Yes I did with an accurate straight edge, it was perfect, I spent quite a bit of time on this to make absolutely sure it was perfectly flat.
     
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    As long as all the prep work is done properly and correctly like a paint job this should go pretty well It's when some of this stuff can't be done there are problems If you didn't have much of a death rattle and you didn't let it get away from you and you didn't let it go on for a long time then all your metal and things should be in generally pretty good shape your center girdle and all that shouldn't have hairline cracks in it so on and so forth But where is the limit that you say well I didn't do this very much etc to some people these waypoints are very and vastly different in their minds so there's always that I don't want to say you got lucky there's no need for any of that. It seems you did your work correctly and there you go so let's see how long all this lasts at 150,000 mi on both of the generation 3s I have here the interiors are starting to fall apart You can't put your arms on the armrest on the door panel anymore so on and so forth It's really quite getting uncomfortable actually so that was the main thing for me the generation 2 is built like an interior kind of should be built the generation 3 nah that went to that real plasticky stuff like you want a picture in a magazine but you don't want to touch it kind of thing and well that's just not a driver's car that's a magazine advertisement car stuff people want to work on on hoovey's garage and stuff.
     
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    I have not had any issues with the interior. Everything works as it should and the Five has the simulated leather interior. My car is garage kept and I do keep the interior and exterior clean and conditioned. I drive the car like I am trying to save gas, no hard acceleration, no emergency stops. I am an old man, and have learned that I do not want to give the insurance company or the state any more of my money than they already get.
     
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    Our 2013 is softex fake leather too one owner etc . Just not expected. As someone who's owned Toyota's since about 1969 or so. But eh if one is happy . We keep our transports much looonger than most . Is probably the issue. And built-in planned obsolescences generally not something I aspire to be involved in so I just had to back it up to a little before that became really prevalent 07 to '09 that sort of thing and it's worked out well so we're good.
     
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    Gasket Masters mentions triple square: it works but is not the optimum; Toyota specs a double hex bit (same number of points, but 60 degree instead of 90), and slightly different dims.

    the proper bit is available on Amazon; I just never remember to look up and bookmark.

    See last link in my signature for the spec; on a phone turn it landscape to see signature.
     
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    Thanks for the info, I will definitely get one the next time.
     
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    I use the wrong tool to remove and then reinstall the head bolts without any problems It damaged the tool which I threw out when I was finished mainly because I didn't want to run out and go get another tool if that particular minute of the day and it was never going to come apart again so there's always that now that whole assemblies in the trash actually the whole car is.
     
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    I did not damage the tool, but I will get the proper one next time if I have to do it again.

    Here is a pic of the difference I can see where that might be a problem. Bi-hex is what Toyota specs.

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    Did you also spray some WD40 on the valve seats to see if you had any leaks?
    I had 1 valve that was leaking just a little bit. So I seated them all in since I have to remove
    the springs to change the valve guide seals.

     
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    I actually did that too, I already had the compound and tool to do it. Honestly if I would have had more time or another vehicle to drive I would have sent the head out to have it restored professionally. The car runs great, and my mileage went up from 45 mpg to 55 mpg. That leaky head gasket at the end the car had no power. To keep the first start up from rattling, I would relieve pressure when stopped from coolant res.
     
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    *** UPDATE***

    Just wanted to post an update. I have put about 7k miles on it since doing the head gasket replacement. And all is perfect. I just got back from a 2k trip to Florida and back. Car ran perfectly, A/C on all the time running about 75 mph most of the way. Car was loaded down pretty good. and still got over 50 mpg.


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    That's great to hear so it is possible some people get it get it right and are driving again wish my persona could run again well at least be viable anyway it runs but you can't drive it anywhere so there's always that but it's nothing that we're going to worry with just chalk it up to the Gen 3 is not the one.
     
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    Sorry to hear that, my car is almost at 300k miles and I have owned it since 180k. It has been an excellent car for me. When the head gasket went, I thought about parting it out. I just couldn't do it. I love the car so much I decided to just fix it right and move on. I have had a few things fail, but really nothing major. (Brake master and water pump) Other than that it has been rock solid. We have taken it to Florida 3 times now about 800 miles each way. They are really great cars, and if something happens to it, I will buy another.

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