Project Lithium Prototype Doubles EV Range of Plugin Prius

I would like to get one for my PIP but it wouldn't be cost efficient for me at this time. I see that wasn't a factor for you though. Respect. I'll wait until mine falls on into that 6-7 mi. range. Now that it's warmer here in SoCal, I've been getting 8.5-9 mi. range.

Would love to hear what your experience with the pack is so far.

 

I completely understand where you are coming from regarding your PiPs current EV range and your interest in finding a solution to it that doesn't break the bank. I've been there and continue to look for solutions to my pack needs as well. Obviously, to me anyways, lithium is a much different animal than NiMH in almost every respect of it's integration into a car. With PiP and to a slightly lesser extents non-plugin Prius the driving history plays a pretty big part in any Prii range. Just stating a range number without including at least some driving history can be extremely misleading for the reader. If you drive your PiP at 25 to 30 mph all the time, you might, even now be able to slowly bring your GOM ( Guess O Meter ),s EV range to increase at least a little. On the other hand if you've got lots of accents to climb and you climb them in EV mode or you max out PiP s EV speed at 64 mph often enough anyone expecting a 10 year old pack to deliver under those conditions is just way off track, imo., There are driver / driving hacks and workarounds to a lot of issues PiP owners have, but most of them were posted here at priuschat going on 10 years ago or more.

Looking for a used PiP pack is one way to get you started on your journey to understanding the lithium pack in you PiP, even if you never use it in your car. Even those are not cheap and you'll never know what you've got unttil you get your hands dirty and crack a couple of books on the subject.

 

ill say this, whats in the books and what's out there to read will not help at all. Its not until you install cross-drilled slotted rotors with upgraded pads do you realize what most know about regen and the PHEV system on a Prius doesn't align with real world experiences of noticing the EV range dramatically increased from braking with upgraded braking components. The same can be said for the HV pack and how the ecus all react to higher-capacity cells. The problem with getting your hands dirty is that you end up down a rabbit hole and making plans to buy an $11k EV battery so you can take the cells and use them in your PIP so you can see how close to the numbers it'll have to play out so you get 100 miles of EV range. This way, once you have the upgraded charger working you only need 60 minutes of charging and achieve 100 miles range from those 60 minutes.

 

Not sure about all that I have a generation 3 Persona with four-wheel discs with dimpled slotted and drilled all on one rotor on all four wheels and I didn't see any difference in any kind of anything after that was done I put them on myself coated rotors burgundy raybestos pads. I actually hardly ever use my hydraulic brakes

 

yeah but that's not a PIP or PHEV...

 

No but it still has the same regenerative braking system I do believe that the PIP or v or whatever plug-in has so it should output the same amount of charging and all this and that as that vehicle also It's just charging a different battery chemistry I guess

 

the PIP has a whole additional ECU that manages all the special sauce that makes it a plug-in.

the logic you are using is like the rest, not until many people express the same as I am or I show the data logs recorded before and after the upgrade will people possibly be able to think that maybe what we know about regen and how toyota implemented it is closer to how the tesla operates to generate energies from braking.

there is an actual data point in the returned log files from the prius that ill use as my reference point once I've collected more data that will show, that the PIP does in fact generate more energy from braking with upgraded components. I really want to test this out with a bbk!