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  1. rjparker

    rjparker Tu Humilde Sirviente

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    It’s not about avoiding an accident if a semi next to you does a hard left. It’s about surviving an accident.

    At that point it’s physics.
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  2. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

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    According to whom?
     
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    The Lone Star state, where if you aren't doing 90mph in some places, you're taking forever.

    Survivors?
     
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    I am familiar with this myself.
     
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    I don't remember if it was IIHS or NHTSA, but according to statistics, larger vehicles are safer in multivehicle collisions, a Camry being a lot safer than a Corolla or Prius.

    However, small vehicles are a lot safer in single-car collisions, SUVs and pickup trucks being the least safe.

    The reason is simple physics. Larger vehicles have more mass and energy; so, the momentum and energy is transferred to the other vehicles in multivehicle collisions but to the vehicle and occupants themselves in single-vehicle collisions.
     
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    Having a small car doesn't equate to being safer or avoiding an accident. Safety and avoiding an accident is primarily up the driver. There are too many people on the road who have no clue of or can even grasp the concept of defensive driving skills.
     
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    Wow, you assume a lot. You know what happens when you assume.....

    Oregon is not the only state we road trip in. There are plenty of western states that have 80 mph speed limits.

    Your assumption skills are strong. Maybe try actually reading my posts before assuming I had "weird issues" with the car. Like I said in my opening post, it was a great car.
     
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    If you never travel out of California, you never will.
     
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    LOL! I tried using the "Miata" excuse when one passed us on the freeway in Utah. "Honey, look! They sit lower than we do!" No response.
     
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    Yeah.. When you get *crickets* as a response, you know you are on thin ice.
     
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    Thank you for pointing this out. I’m no longer married for this reason. My former husband didn’t think comfort and safety were priorities. Unfortunately took me a while to grasp what was going on because I grew up in a similar situation. I now know better.

    I sometimes fear the angle of the large windshield and have concerns about crouching to get in but like the stability of a car that’s lower to the ground. Easier to maneuver and less chance of tipping. Still waiting on my Prius.

    I figure if the crouching will force me to stay in shape and if it gets to be too much I will find a way to get a Prius Off Road lift. Even an inch would make a difference.

    Otherwise it’s a Corolla Cross Hybrid but I couldn’t get the headrest to adjust to a comfortable position. It forced me to hunch over no matter how it was adjusted plus the ride didn’t feel as stable. I think sitting up high is a false sense of security but I get it. There is simply not a best of both worlds car out there for me right now.
     
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    Yes - there's that. Being able to see farther out - when there are lots & lots of tall vehicles all around gives one more spatial awareness - rather than simply relying on brake lights that may have already turned on in front of you too late.
     
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    Reminds me of some VW I sat in at a car show: my head was cranked over against the ceiling; I tried pulling some little dash gizmo towards me and it came off in my hand...

    First impressions that linger for decades, lol.
     
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    Some bugs DO have very little Headroom.

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  15. daisy555

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    Yes, being able to see over the cars would be nice.
     
  16. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I own two motorcycles, and I've owned an MX-5 - so the automotive Napoleonic complexities aren't really a factor for me personally.
    I prefer long distance travel in a truck because of visibility, safety, utility (bags are easier to load/unload from a truck bed than a trunk) and utility (hauling messy/malodorous cargo) and utility (towing) and utility (six seatbelts.)
    That's just me being me.
    I also have over 200,000 miles in Priuses and despite their many MANY warts they were capable, if uninspired/inspiring people haulers.

    @ safety.
    You KNOW you're going to be in an accident.
    Pick One:
    Full sized Pickup.
    Prius.

    The arguments about crumple zones, vehicle stability, and distribution of energy through a body-on-frame vehicle versus a unibody constructed vehicle are entertaining, but at the end of the day:

    Happy spouse.
    Happy house.

    That my CFO insisted that our last vehicle purchase be another full sized P/U is YET FURTHER PROOF that I won the spouse lottery.
    Besides....I also chose wisely in where I live..... :cool:
    (The prices have dropped since 16 July)
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