Featured Conversations at a Toyota dealership

MKB reviews won't increase the sales of the Lexus EV, that's for sure. It won't help tank Toyota like his review helped tank Fisker but it sure won't help its sales...

 

i'd venture to say that if he bought it, he loves it. not because he has owners bias, but because he (most likely?) knew the price and range/charging speed issues.
it's like the bolt. slow charging speed, but you should now that going in. great commuter car, and for those that do travel long distances, it doesn't bother them.

is the camry pricey? i have always considered it reasonable for what you get.

 

The Bolt though was almost $20k less. That goes a long way to accepting a car's shortcomings.

If the bZ4X had come out 5 years earlier, we wouldn't as critical of it. Since it didn't, others got to set the criteria it would be judged against, and it is like Toyota completely ignored what those others did when they designed the bZ4X. They did the same thing with the gen4 Prius Prime. It had 4 seats like the first Volt, and lost a lot of cargo space to the battery like the C-max Energi. Both PHEVs that came out a generation ago, and Toyota fans were shocked the public didn't forget their reactions to those for the Prius.

I think Toyota was less likely to have incentives, which can mean a bigger difference out the door than MSRP implies. That may even be the case with the bZ4X.

 

depends on how old it is i suppose.

 

He has worked for a Toyota dealership selling cars for decades.

I guess the Camry is a reasonable car for what you get. But I just don't need a sports car that can do 0 to 60 in 6 seconds. I'd like to see more econo cars. If I were to go back in time I would have leaned harder towards getting a new Yaris or Honda fit or even a new Nissan Versa instead of the Avalon. But econo cars are going away, so I guess next time I'll just go get another used car with half its life already used up, that the radio will die, all the interior will start flaking off, and has no warranty, like the Avalon.

 

I agree with every single thing you've said. Except for one tiny thing. When you rent a car for a long trip, you're putting the miles on theirs instead of yours. If the government rate is $0.50 per mile and fuel is a third of that, then I would say you're probably saving $0.30 per mile by tacking the miles onto their car. Avis in Florida knows this and puts a mileage limit for locals who want to rent a car...