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Cruise / Lane Assist / Sensor "System Malfunction"

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by 2023Priuss, Sep 12, 2024 at 2:11 PM.

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    2023 Prime Premium, I am getting these System Malfunction warnings after a front end collision (air bags deployed). Paid out of pocket to repair / replace all components/air bags with OEM new, and everything works fine there. Now there is this persistent notification on the dash about these sensor systems that don't work.

    1st non-Toyota mechanic replaced everything to the point that all error codes were gone from the ECU. Lights still persisted, and said take it to dealer.

    So brought it to dealer this week, and I got the rear-door recall done, and extra key recall, and expecting to pay out of pocket for the repair since it was likely caused by the impact, but the dealer said the same thing, that nothing is showing up on error codes and they don't know what it is, and sent me home. They even did a manual calibration on the cruise control sensors/distance sensor and still nothing.

    So I'm kind of stuck at this point, since the ECU isn't showing codes but the lights are still on for the Lane Assist/Cruise Control system. Car operates fine (including A/C) except that these assist systems do not work. Has anyone heard of something like this , and how I can go about troubleshooting it or replacing?

    I will probably eventually take it to a different Toyota dealer next week, and give them a shot at it, but if anyone can help that would be much appreciated since I am going to have to pay out of pocket for this its non-warranty damage, trying to do as much self-diagnosis or repair possible.

    Pictures below are all the error/warnings it is giving on the dash. There is nothing on the right side at all with check engine, ABS, brakes, airbags, etc... Those are all fully clear, its just these dash notifications with "System malfunction" and the symbols above. 20240911_164942.jpg 20240911_164944.jpg
     
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    That's a pretty comprehensive set of lights. I think I'd say it means the windscreen camera is having a problem - I reckon that's the common component that all of those use.

    Really would expect a code in the system though.
     
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    thanks for the reply. I'm gunna take it into another Toyota dealer today (the main one for San Diego area), and have them try again to diagnose it. I will suggest the windscreen camera to them.

    that works . It "reads" the speed limit and posts it on the driver display panel and works fine. I am also going to press the dealer on getting ECU codes, or potentially "Resetting" the ECU (maybe just some lingering codes).
     
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    What about the road sign assist - looks like it's disabled? Can you enable it? I'd expect that to complain too if it was the camera.
     
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    Take it to another dealer.....
    The TechStream jockey either didn't know what he was doing or knew what he/she was doing and didn't want to deal with it. He/she figures it's the body shop's problem for handing you a partially functional car.
    I'm guessing the body control module should be able to do a role call on functional vs not functional/not communicating modules and sensors. I saw the traction control icon on one of those pictures, I don't think that's tied to the camera - but I may be wrong on that...

    Just my 2-cents....
     
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    Ooh, missed the traction control/VSC light. Yep, that's odd. Not sure what that would have in common with all the TSS stuff. Could be a separate problem, but if it's a single cause, there might be a significant clue there.
     
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    The wiring harness my have a "nick" in it that the body shop missed or they bent some pins snapping things together. The impact was violent enough to set-off the air bags so a lot of things got crushed, bent, and fractured. If they were able to use a rear-ended donor car; I'm guessing everything would be working. Since they were on a budget, and parts cost were high - they may have skimped on a few things. But that's the nature of the beast..
     
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    It's possible the system shuts all the driver aids off if one is misbehaving.
     
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    Why didn't you go through insurance to get the initial damage fixed?
     
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    This may be a branded car that got cobbled back together. Big business in certain communities.
     
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    The dealer just called, they said they "suspect" its sensor calibration issue, and said it would cost 7 hours labor $1700 to recalibrate the sensors, but no guarantees that would fix anything.

    Does anyone know if the sensor calibration is something I could do at home? Not too interested in dumping $1700 on possibly a dead end

    no its not like that. It was just front end only, and not cobbled. From what I am reading now, is that the ADAS system gets screwed up, and needs to be recalibrated, so I think potentially its related to this. The 2nd dealer said there were no error codes in the ECU, so potentially it just needs to be calibration reset.

    So I might check now if there are places besides the stealership who can do this in San Diego with a 2023 Prius, since I doubt it will be $1700 normally.

    edit: from what I am reading, an ADAS calibration should take 1-3 hours max, so the 7 hours billing seems kind of ridiculous from Toyota Norm Reeves. I will contact them tomorrow and see if I can negotiate that, otherwise will probably find a separate ADAS specialized place if they can handle Toyota Prius 2023 (not all have the software.
     
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    Possible, but TRC/VSC isn't really a "driver aid" in the same way as everything else there. It's not part of the whole sensor/automatic control override stuff - it's more like the ABS. Disabling braking and stability functions due to a radar/camera glitch makes no sense.

    And it hasn't even disabled all the assists - there's a few not showing failure icons - I can't see BSM, RCD, RCTA. Rear-facing stuff.
     
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    I'm not sure, but isn't the car icon with the circle around it, the BSM inop warning?
    I know the cruise control won't activate until the radar distance sensor is working correctly.
    Under TSS 1.0 & 2.0 the TRC/VSC worked as long as the 4 tire rotation sensors are working. If other sensor were inop, you still had TRC/VSC control of the car - on TSS 3.0 I have no idea. It doesn't make sense to disable TRC/VSC for inop minor sensor inputs. Let be clear, those 4 wheel sensors needs to be working, so the ECU can determine proper operations of the TRC/VSC.
    On my 2012 Prius C, the body shop had to clear/reset my TRC/VSC system, in order to get it functional again. Drove the car over a lot of shallow pot holes, to ensure that they just didn't disable it. I tend to trust, but verify.
     
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    Might have been from a salvage auction. Might also be why the first dealership just did the bare minimum(scan and recalibrate). The dealership didn't want to get dragged down a rabbit hole of bad repairs, wrong components, and the like(not saying the repairs are actually bad or the components wrong, just saying that the dealership couldn't know and might be wary of a vehicle that could take many days to sort out).
     
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    That's a general driving assist warning indicator. Covers anything else that doesn't have it's own light. It's inevitably lit cos of all the stuff on the screen.

    The screen would show the individual systems.

    (Having a light would make more sense if you could actually dismiss the screen pop-up, but if you try to get rid of it, it comes back every few seconds.)
     
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    It looks more like the Proactive Driving Assist to me. I have that turned on.
     
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    For anyone interested in the update, here is what the dealer responded with today. They requested 7 hrs labor $1700+ to "recalibrate the sensor" and then go from there (did not offer any guarantee of a fix), so I just pulled it out and drove it home. Might see an independent ADAS mechanic Monday and just have them do the calibration on what is showing the errors below, and see if that fixes the error. I am not sure what all these errors are

    Code list:
    X21BA BH System Malfunction
    X2023 Front Radar Sensor Optical Axis Not Adjusted
    X2036 Front Side Radar Sensor Optical Axis Not Adjusted
    X203B Rear Side Radar Sensor Optical Axis Not Adjusted
    X2014 Front Recognition camera optical Axis Not Adjusted
    X2403 Automatic Brake Malfunction (Sub)
    X2904
    X2000 Yaw Rate Sensor Malfunction
    X204A Acceleration Sensor Malfunction
    X2402 Powertrain System Malfunction
    X2406 Brake Hold Fail
    X2017 Front Recognition Camera outside Guaranteed Operating Voltage
    X2016 Front Recognition Camera outside Guaranteed Operating Temperature
    X2503 Drive Monitor Temporary Not Available
    X2003 Brake Control System Malfunction

    A lot of these codes are old and probably not cleared out (?), since I did a lot of the repairs a few weeks ago. Also not sure how many of these errors are just temporary "blips" or actual persistent things, for example the Front Recognition Camera Voltage thing, might just be to switching from low battery or being in the sun.

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    I normally wouldn't say this but at that highway robbery price - I'd head south to TJ or beyond, to see if they can do it cheaper. Turn it into a mini-vacation. That's a lot of beer money, without a guarantee fix!!! I would first make sure all my sensor are at least operable or able to accept a calibaration. I would understand if one or several sensors wouldn't align, do you get 1 free retest?????
     
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    I can take it Monday to ADAS specialty shop to evaluate and reset the codes. The report only shows 4 of the ADAS sensors need calibration (not even an entire full sensor calibration!), which should take 1-2 hours. Norm Reeves Toyota charging $1700 to recalibrate 4 ADAS sensors is actual some insanity :confused:

    Also considering buying one of these high end OBD scanners, but not sure if they are compatible with everything on the 2023 Prius? Since from what I have seen this car model is still really new that its hard to find people with compatible electronics equipment to handle it.

     
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    Wow. I just looked up only one of the realignment procedures(millimeter wave radar). I would NOT want to try that. I think CarCareNut has mentioned a couple times that the recalibrations are not fun(or cheap). I now I start to understand why. Extremely finnicky and labor intensive.
     
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