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Featured Toyota to delay US EV production to 2026 amid slowing sales, Nikkei reports

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Tideland Prius, Oct 2, 2024 at 11:18 PM.

  1. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    They technically have one BEV model now.

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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    I know little about the mechanicals, but the operation theory sounds like Honda's two motor and Voltec system. It is mostly a series hybrid, but does have a direct connection between wheels and engine for times that would be better to use.

    For Toyota, it is a better option that their system for PHEVs and hybrids making more use of the electric side, as they plan with the new engines coming out.
    Two counting the Lexus sibling, but not made in the US. So sales are burdened by lack of federal incentives.
     
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    Meh, perhaps only in China, but Toyota will never use the much inferior and much less reliable BYD technology outside China.

    Of course BYD will hype it saying it gets over 100 mpg and the electric-motor efficiency is 99% etc., but here are the actual numbers for BYD Seal DM-i Boost RWD (the most fuel-efficient trim):

    WLTP 36.7 mpg (~ US EPA 30 mpg) combined on gasoline
    WLTP 99.7 mpge (~ US EPA 83 mpge) combined on electricity

    vs.

    US EPA 40 mpg combined on gasoline for Toyota RAV4 Hybrid AWD (with the AWD hit on the fuel economy, an RWD would get at least 42 mpg)
    US EPA 120 mpge combined on electricity for Tesla Model Y

    Note that US EPA values tend to be a lot lower for corresponding WLTP numbers. For example, Tesla Model 3 is rated 159 mpge WLTP vs. 132 mpge US EPA.

    It is not even a close contest. And BYD still cannot make a decent ADAS.

    China is good at making LFP-cathode EV batteries but not much else for EVs.
     
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    I understood they were also burdened my high price & low range.
     
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