Head Gasket Repair - Anything else?

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  1. VicVinegar

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    Wanted to check and see if there is something else I should be considering before diving in to fixing the head gasket.

    I found a well-rated shop that ball parked me what seems like a reasonable price for the work, including sending the head out to a machine shop to check for any issues. I figured that if I do it, I'll also ask them to replace the EGR cooler and the water pump. My car probably also needs plugs.

    I'd like to check the traction battery health before sinking thousands into the car, I guess the Dr. Prius app is still the best way?

    Car has been running well overall, still got 50+ mpg commuting last week. Just ran into a real rough start over the weekend + P0301 code and now see the coolant is low.

    Anything else to consider here? Car is a 2013 with 172k miles. I realize the suspension is probably wearing out at some point, and there is still the brake booster lurking as well, but I don't think I've seen any value in a pro-active brake booster replacement. Thanks.
     
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    You may want to think about proactively replacing the invert coolant pump to avoid further downtime. Hold onto the old one as a backup spare.
     
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    replace the thermostat and thermostat housing. I'm not sure you should bother with the water pump. They are very easy to replace and they don't have seals or bearings to fail like the old days. That said, I did this same job myself 3 years ago and I replace mine with a part straight from Toyota. I had a problem this year and I put the old pump back in. So, I guess what I am saying is if you do replace the pump, keep the old one around.

    I didn't do any machining on my cyl. head. The car hadn't done anything bad so I took a chance there wouldn't be a need for machining.

    replace the brake fluid although that is not directly related to any head gasket work.

    I cannot think of anything else that is warranted beyond what you have mentioned.
     
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    I'd replace the water pump (aka pump for the engine coolant), and the thermostat. They are failure prone, due to plastic impellor swelling/cracking. And the inverter water pump. With the latter apparently the only way to get it out is to first pull out the inverter. Yup... Doubly frustrating: you can see it clear as day from below, but apparently the fasteners are only removable from above. At least according to @NutzAboutBolts .

    The EGR system entails EGR cooler, EGR valve, EGR pipe (between valve and intake manifold) and the intake manifold, which has EGR passages. All of it will be quite carbon-clogged, and I have this unproven theory that's what blew your head gasket. All of it likely will operate like new, with thorough cleaning, for around $35 (USD) to replace the pliable gaskets on the intake manifold. Or you can spend about a grand for replacement parts. More info in my signature (on a phone turn it landscape to see signatures).
     
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    Thanks for the responses. Now I see why replacing the whole motor becomes attractive.

    I'll talk to the shop owner I guess and see. Even if they weren't making money off parts, I could see a pro not wanting to mess around with cleaning out the EGR stuff.
     
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    Perhaps they could hand over the parts to you for cleaning?

    there is one component, the EGR valve, that is vulnerable to internal damage, a loose, internal component can develop a wear groove. Unfortunately you can only buy the complete valve, for over $200 USD.
     
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    Maybe. I dropped the car today, he mentioned checking the EGR system as part of this. First step is confirming it is indeed the head gasket by looking inside with the borescope.
     
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    So the mechanic gave me a quick update, with the intention of following up more on Monday.

    He does not think there is a blown head gasket. He says there is no coolant in the cylinders, they pressure tested the cooling system and it is not leaking. Just saw oil/fuel in the cylinders indicating the spark is weak. The plugs are overdue for replacement.

    So he is proposing plugs/coils and cleaning out the EGR system. He also priced a replacement water pump, probably because I mentioned it as something I'd do with the HG. Guess I might as well do it anyway at this age/mileage?

    It does not explain why the coolant was low though. It went somewhere, although it has been a long time on the coolant.
     
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    From the first post:
    Is this a continuation of another thread. Feels like a continuation.
     
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    Unless you mean a continuation of one of the many other head gasket adjacent threads, no. It was just me preparing to need a head gasket repair based on the symptoms I saw all pointing to a head gasket on a 2013 with enough miles where the head gasket would not be a surprise.

    I dropped it off, the mechanic wanted to verify it was a head gasket before starting, and the update is him saying it is not. I could have sworn I read a thread like this, so I'm looking for that in the interim. Can't remember if it was just people changing plugs/coils hoping they didn't need the head gasket.
     
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    Yeah changing plugs and coils is mostly unecessary. The code for gen 3 head gasket failure (aka coolant in combustion chamber) is often P0XX, and the knee-jerk reaction is plug/coils.

    Speaking of codes, are there any?
     
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    I've only seen a P0301 once when it was a particularly rough start, which has also only happened once.

    I guess the thing that doesn't make sense is how does it pass a coolant system pressure test if the head gasket is leaking? And it has been at his shop since Thursday AM, can assume it was not moving anywhere, it should have coolant in the cylinder right?