Gen5 Limited AWD Wheels & Tires HELP!!! <g>

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  1. Bechi

    Bechi Junior Member

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    I apologize in advance. I know there is a plethora of threads on Gen5 tires, wheels, spare kits, etc., but I'll be d@mned if I can make heads or tails out of what to get with any sense of confidence. Would those of you who understand this in and out give me a hand?

    I just bought a 2025 AWD Limited and first order of business before winter is to get a set of snows. Nokian Hakkapeliittas have served me exceptionally well for decades, so the Hakkapeliitta R5s are what I'm eying. I'd really like to size down to 17" tires for snows, and the savings over 19" tires should put me well on my way towards a set of utilitarian rims.
    • Assumption: I'm pretty sure that the OEM P195/60R17 tires/rims on the AWD LE are compatible with the Limited.
    If my Assumption is correct, Tire Rack lists P225/55R17 as an alternate to P195/60R17 (AWD LE OEM). It also lists P225/45R19 as an alternate to P195/50R19 (AWD Limited OEM), but I prefer the 17". Expanding my assumption to include Tire Rack being correct, then I've found my new snow tires!

    Where I'm REALLY lost though is figuring out how to find a set of cheap utilitarian rims to put these on. The first time I bought rims for snows (2007 Prius), I nailed it and all was and continues to be, well. That obviously went straight to my head, because when I next bought rims for a set of snows (1997 F150), the holes for the lugs were too big, so now I'm properly humbled. If anyone can give me the specs for the AWD LE wheels (I'm assuming that they're fully compatible with the AWD Limited), and a tutorial on how to ensure that an aftermarket rim matches, I would be grateful!

    Thank you so much,

    Bechi
     
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    I seem to recall there's a compatible, Toyota steel rim available? Likely around 1/3 the price of the 17" alloys?

    Just trying something: damned.
     
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    Whether you stick with the stock 19" wheels or size down to the 17" wheels, might I suggest going with the Michelin X-Ice Snow instead of the Nokian Hak R5. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Nokian tires. I ran WRG3s and G4s on my gen3 for over a decade. And I'd put a set of G5s on my gen5 in a heartbeat if Nokian made them in a compatible size for the stock 19" wheels. But the X-Ice Snow is also a great winter tire in the same class as the Hak R5, and it's available in the stock 19" and 17" gen5 sizes.

    I've been running stock Toyos for my summer tires and X-Ice Snow for my winter tires for the last two years. Couldn't be happier with the winter performance. The first winter I used the original wheels and swapped tires. Last summer I was able to get a second set of 19" OEM wheels for cheap(free wheels plus one night in a hotel and fuel to get there and back) so now the winter tires live on their own set of wheels.

    The only thing I would change with my setup is a better summer tire if it was available in a stock size, or switching altogether to a quality all-weather tire like the WRG5 or the CrossClimate 3. I don't typically put on enough miles in a year to justify two sets of tires. I don't like to keep a tire beyond six full years, and I'm going to have tons of tread left on my current tires when I hit that point with the amount of miles I'm driving. An all-weather would be the perfect solution. But if you drive more than 12k miles a year, then this doesn't apply to you.
     
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    I/d second Michelin Snows, they're bare pavement manners are excellent, roll like good all-seasons.

    They're directional, have an arrow on the sidewall to indicate which direction they should be rotating when the car's going forward. In a nutshell: if you're on the right side of the car, you should be seing two clockwise arrows, and conversely on the left of side of car, two counterclockwise arrows.

    I'm pointing this out because of the two experiences I've had with Costco's Tire Shop: they managed to reliably eff it up, both times. Basically don't leave till you're sure.
     
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    Thank you Mendel. If I interpreted what you sent correctly, I need:
    • #42611-47641 17x6.5J Steel Wheel (Type C)
    • #90942-01131 Lug Nuts (Type B)
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    • #90942-05009 Valve (Tubeless Tire)
      OR
    • #42607-47010 TPMS
    • #90942-05047 Valve (TPMS)
    I had seen these pages linked to other threads, but wasn't sure how to translate! <g>

    Bechi
     
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    Hammersmith and Mendel,

    I promise to consider the Michelin snows, but I confess to REALLY loving the Hakkapeliittas. I tried both Nokian H and WRG2 as summer tires in the past, and had belts break on both, so never again, but I've never had a regret with the Hakkas. They are likewise excellent on dry pavement, great fuel economy (often better than my all-seasons), and smooth and quiet; you'd never know you had snows on until you're plowing through it (and with the clearance on a Prius, you're definitely plowing!) like a fuel-efficient tractor.

    Thanks!

    Bechi
     
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    For winter I run Blizzaks 205/55/16 here in the Colorado mountains. I got 16” wheels from TR with Blizzaks mounted.
    I bought also from TR 225/55/17 with Conti extreme contact for not winter.
     
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    Regarding the lug nuts: Your car will already come with a set of the Type B. They're identical between the 17" and 19" wheels.

    If you're dead set on going with 17", you might want to consider the plastic wheel covers. Totally up to you. Maybe you don't mind the look of bare, black steel wheels. But the wheel covers should give you a tiny bit of extra efficiency at highway speeds. Type B is what's installed on US LE and SE Priuses. They're meant for the Type D alloy wheel, so I can't absolutely guarantee they'll fit on the Type C steel wheel. The Type A wheel cover is the one that is used on the steel wheel in Japan, Mexico and elsewhere. That's a guaranteed fit.

    If you want to see what the steel wheels with the Type A wheel covers looks like, just look at the Toyota Mexico website:
    https://www.toyota.mx/modelos/hibridos/prius/
    (the part where you can change colors and rotate the car, not the photos below it)

    Or in this video:
     
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    Re: TPMS; don't forget to get them cloned and ID'ed to your set of summer tires & rims. when you switch over in the winter - you won't have to deal with that pesky TPMS lamp.
     
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    The gen5 can store two sets of TPMS sensors, so you don't to do any cloning. Just use the car's settings menu and steering wheel buttons to tell the car you switched to the other set. It's much simpler than previous generations.
     
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    No wheel covers for me, but I do think I'll need the little hub cover #42603, unless the ones from my 2007 will fit (preferred the bare wheels over the clunky plastic covers). And good to know about the Gen5 being able to store two sets of sensors; I've never bothered installing a set on snows before, but since the Gen5 can monitor the actual individual tire pressures it seems worthwhile. I'm curious though - I see in the manual, instructions on switching between two sets of tires, but is the system sensitive enough to reflect each TPMS in the correct location when rotating? So if I rotate my tires so the front left tire is now in the rear and it develops a leak, the system knows the correct new position on the car? If so, that's great! I currently have a bad sensor on my 2007, but without using Techstream while messing with the pressures to determine which sensor...

    Any thoughts on the 225/55R17 tire size Tire Rack lists as an alternate? Looking at the alternate sizes generated by tiresizecalculator.com (screenshot attached), that size is 0.5" taller, 1.2" wider, requires a 17x6 to 17x8" rim, and will cause a 1.9% decrease in reported speed, correct? How can I confirm that is actually within tolerances?

    I also just saw that someone has been running 205/65R16 snows without issue. Would it be okay to go down to a 16" rim? I think I'd prefer that, especially for the winter.

    Thank you all so much!
     

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    I would and did go for 215/55R17, on Toyota 6.5" rims.

    It's not as close to 195/50R19 on diameter as 225/55R17 (-1.4% rather than +0.3%), but it's between the 195/50R19 and 195/60R17 diameters, rather than being bigger than both.

    And less excessively wide too. And it seems to be a more common size.

    16" rims is pushing your luck on the PHEV or AWD which have bigger front discs. Reports I've seen show very little clearance. The FWD HEV would have more to spare.

    Note that your car currently has the 19" wheels, so it makes more sense to compare sizes against that, not against the 17" wheels you don't have, which are a slightly different size. The 225/55R17 won't cause a 1.9% decrease in reported speed, cos it's not a 1.9% change from the 19".
     
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    I don’t think there’s a centre cap for the the Toyota steel rims. I found a 2” (nom) ABS end cap (plumbing item) almost worked, except slightly loose, till I pushed on a rubber band cut from bicycle inner tube. I used Toyota’s open-ended lug nuts*. The stock nuts VERY likely will work (owners manual describes using them with temp spare), but the look odd.

    More info, and worth noting, this is gen 3, so not sure if wheel studs and hub opening are the same:

    Ugh Winter tire size question....Sorry.... | PriusChat

    * Lent them to grandson, car was totalled, so I got an aftermarket set, more-or-less identical:

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    they’re actually better than Toyota’s, have that extra shoulder so socket doesn’t chew up the rim paint.
     
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    I went with 225/55/17 and wheels from TR.
    Rides great, no issues