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  1. hill

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    wow Bob - what else should we call each other now that we're devolving down that slippery hyperbole slope. So much for legitimizing 'judging' others as 'just' a figure of automotive quality speech.
    That's great, that you have no illegal alien perverts near you. Ooops - presuming law enforcement has them all caught? & drug dealers? Traffickers? other felonies? It's not just about the pervs. We don't have enough LEGAL people willing to break the law in the country already?
    Maybe show some data - to show how Alabama is a microcosm of the entire nation?
    Or not.
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    Which one is that - it seems like you have to go high dollar to achieve better CD performance - which then because becomes a cost recuperate formula.
     
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    Then you understand that Newsom isn't merely taking care of strawberry pickers- he's taking care of landlords, car dealers, insurance brokers and grocers- everyone else that picker needs to pay to live.
     
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    I find it ironic that people who provide this country with food, clothing and housing aren't considered worthy of a wage that can provide food clothing and housing because "it doesn't require any skill."

    Well, what does it take to be able to make enough money to afford a house and save for retirement? Really!? What does it take to make a living and provide for a family these days?

    Sometimes I wonder if suicide would be the best option here because there isn't any hope in this world. At least if push comes to shove I can just live off welfare I guess, even though that's a terrible thing to do. But I don't care, because society as a whole doesn't value my work anyway.
     
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    Perhaps you are not a fool, but you voted for a total fool only because he portrays himself tough on immigrants.

    He thinks tariffs will bring jobs to the US, but they will only bring inflation. Biden’s incentives were working. Tariffs don’t work, as the other countries have tried and failed. In fact, the US jobs are being lost because manufacturers can no longer import the necessary supplies.

    He has cut the science and academic funding and launched a war against higher education, in fact also primary and secondary education. This is when China and others are heavily investing on science and education.

    He dismantled crucial government organizations.

    Free speech is disappearing unless you agree with him.

    The list is so long.

    To expect a super-rich person who lived his entire life isolated from the society to help the people is naive at best. He is and will only work for his own and his family’s own benefit. He can care less on the country and people. I heard that he recently made over $5 billion from crypto, thanks to his presidency. He generally has a complete lack of empathy. He has been supporting the Genocide in Gaza, which is expected to result in all Palestinians to be eventually killed or removed from the region. He is supporting it because it is to his own interest. Let’s see what he will think about himself when he goes into the history books as the enabler of genocide.

    If you still think he will do good, look at and do some research on other countries run by similar demagogues who promise to save their people. They are in peril. Some of those demagogues/dictators are practically his twins. Perhaps America will manage to root him out and survive, but it is in great peril, too.
     
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    Yeah, that's what bugs me the most. We are now completely out of the running for major science and engineering advances in the future.

    If my daughter shows interest in STEM stuff I need to make sure she learns Mandarin, or at least French... because we have been sidelined.
     
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    Spare me the condescending comments - I am a food worker-
    I grow a very large garden and can/freeze the surplus (garden is 20 yards x 40 yards), also grow raspberries, blackberries, grapes, have a 5 tree small apple orchard and a couple of peach trees. A significant part of my time each spring, summer and fall is devoted to food production during the growing season.
    Besides suppling my family, a portion of the gardens excess produce is given to our community's food bank- this year cucumbers, squash and watermelons - happy to share it.

    As mentioned in my younger years (post 410) more time than I care to remember was spent working in tobacco fields. I grew up in an agricultural community and also spent time taking care of the animals.
     
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    It is unbelievable, isn’t it? But what do you expect from an administration who says the universities are raising LGBTQ people while the country needs plumbers?

     
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    Make sure she's also a Star Trek fan so that you can explain to her about the similarities between the CCP and the Ferengi and where women and minorities fit into things.
    The The Rules of Acquisition will also give her insight about the corruption....

    Gee....I'm officially getting old now, I suppose.
    I remember in the 80s when it was those wily Japanese who were going to sideline us in STEM.
    Same tired old tropes as when Regan was in the oral office.

    No wait.....they didn't call it that then.....


    SSDD.
     
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    never ask a frog the temperature of the pot
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    The water seems to be knee-deep....
     
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    Sorry. I probably should have worded that a lot differently and am sorry if I offended. You sound like a good person.

    What bothers me is that for one, of course people don't think that working as some sort of helper or at a fast-food restaurant is going to be a life career. And for two, that we keep getting bashed in the head with "just work harder" and "just learn some new skills" as the solution to all our problems.

    There is no benefit in having a degree or years of experience or knowledge. When I can make the same amount of money owning my own janitorial business with all my own tools and labor force as working as a heavy machine operator with several certificates as working at McDonald's the whole thing becomes pointless.

    The math is simple. If one wants a two-bedroom condo or fixer-upper house in one's name so that one can get married and raise a kid or two in that home

    ... then one would either need to make $60 per hour or work two fulltime jobs at $30 per hour.

    But any "solution" to making that much means being away from the home one is buying almost all the time. Which, in turn, makes the whole thing pointless.
     
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    Yea...let's just all go on welfare and let .gov decide our standard of living. :rolleyes:
     
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    And what alternative do you suggest?

    If you're not rich now you're screwed.

    It's not the governments fault. The rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer.

    Housing is an investment so it will continually keep getting more expensive. There is no solution. There are plenty of places they've tried building more homes, but it doesn't work. Rich cooperations buy them up and keep them empty if need be, just to control prices.
     
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    Just wondering how do you use a solar roof to charge EVs and save?

    I live in California. Since Jan 2020 the state has mandated that new houses have solar roofs. After forced to spend $10's of thousands on a solar roof, people find out that with the NEW 3.0 algorithm, the utility company pay you penny (about $0.02/kWh) for your extra solar electricity, but charge you many times more ($0.25/kWh or $0.58/kWh depending on the time of the day) if you use theirs.

    If one has a regular day job and needs to drive their EVs, he has to pay the utility company charging rates regardless of the solar roof.

    If one's EV is in the garage during daytime, I guess he can use his solar power to charge his EV. However, the solar roof output varies during the day. It may produce 70% of its rated power around noon, but only 30-40% in the morning or afternoon. To avoid paying the high rate, one needs to take this into account. For example, for a 11 kW level 2 charger in early morning or later afternoon, a 30 kW solar roof is needed.

    Another way is to install a storage battery. But it will be another big ticket item. Is it worth it?
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I do not concur.

    Why do millions of people leave their homes and family behind, and risk their families and their very lives trying to break into this country so that they may have the opportunity to 'get screwed?"
     
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    ... and why in many parts of our country are they building homes as fast as they can because normal working level people are purchasing them to live in?

    I do hear your complaint about home affordability in your area - some areas of our country do have an issue with home prices because of a number of reasons - many other areas do not have that situation to that degree.

    The 25 Most Affordable Places to Buy a Home | Zillow
     
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    Buying a home is like defending yourself with a handgun.
    It's ALLLL about location!

    There's no shame in renting, and most people in places like new YORK! city are never going to be home owners or, frankly, car drivers.
    It's working for them.
    (......at least for now.)
    When I was growing up NYC was a VERY different place!!
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    I have a brother who is trapped behind the tinsel curtain, and he actually DOES own a home - but.....his home owns HIM if the truth were told.
    HOWEVER (comma!)
    He has three pretty decent kids who are going to be value adds to this great country and if you think about it that's a lot more important than "owning a home" that somebody else will be living in shortly.
     
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    Not true. I started off street rat and now I'm less than one year from retiring "very, very" comfortably.
     
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    It is true. Try going from a street rat to a retiree today and then come tell me if it's true or not.

    I said if you're rich today, as in right now. If you were able to get on the rich train then either you did it starting several decades ago or you didn't spend any time with your wife and kids.